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[+] bagend@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) You have obviously never been to hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bagend@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Communist utopia" is the strawman of any support whatsoever for China and the DPRK, they're arguing in bad faith. They know this but it will be fun to see their example (probably a shitpost from 2 years ago). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago imagine actually reading marx and understanding how he literally wrote an essay about how marxism is not utopian permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah im good. Ive seen it myself and im not interested in going back to that cesspool. Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's CPC, read a book. Hexbear comments criticizing Russia and China (prepare for the goal posts to move lmao): [1] [2] [3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent [–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago You're not gonna find any utopian communists on hexbear, they're almost all marxists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago https://hexbear.net/comment/2175192 Putin does not care about the well-being of Ukrainian citizens Of course not, he has never. He is acting in self-interest because Ukraine and the US are escalating violence. Do you remember the lethal aid Biden sent? Where do you think that lethal aid went? Who do you think it was shot at? we’re teetering on Putin apologia and sharing RT news uncritically. Putin is a corrupt bastard. I think many on this site cannot tell the difference between not viewing him as satanic vs licking his boot. I wasn't going to try to argue this until your post came up. https://hexbear.net/comment/290125 So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* in case you needed a reminder that Putin is in fact a bad person (58 upvotes, 1 year ago) Fuck off and stop lying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Hexbear, not even once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago But why would you believe your lying eyes? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1783563 This comment is above yours on this thread. Or at least, NK would apparently be a utopia if it had more resources. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) You have obviously never been to hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bagend@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Communist utopia" is the strawman of any support whatsoever for China and the DPRK, they're arguing in bad faith. They know this but it will be fun to see their example (probably a shitpost from 2 years ago). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago imagine actually reading marx and understanding how he literally wrote an essay about how marxism is not utopian permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah im good. Ive seen it myself and im not interested in going back to that cesspool. Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's CPC, read a book. Hexbear comments criticizing Russia and China (prepare for the goal posts to move lmao): [1] [2] [3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent [–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago You're not gonna find any utopian communists on hexbear, they're almost all marxists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago https://hexbear.net/comment/2175192 Putin does not care about the well-being of Ukrainian citizens Of course not, he has never. He is acting in self-interest because Ukraine and the US are escalating violence. Do you remember the lethal aid Biden sent? Where do you think that lethal aid went? Who do you think it was shot at? we’re teetering on Putin apologia and sharing RT news uncritically. Putin is a corrupt bastard. I think many on this site cannot tell the difference between not viewing him as satanic vs licking his boot. I wasn't going to try to argue this until your post came up. https://hexbear.net/comment/290125 So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* in case you needed a reminder that Putin is in fact a bad person (58 upvotes, 1 year ago) Fuck off and stop lying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Hexbear, not even once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago But why would you believe your lying eyes? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bagend@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Communist utopia" is the strawman of any support whatsoever for China and the DPRK, they're arguing in bad faith. They know this but it will be fun to see their example (probably a shitpost from 2 years ago). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago imagine actually reading marx and understanding how he literally wrote an essay about how marxism is not utopian permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah im good. Ive seen it myself and im not interested in going back to that cesspool. Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's CPC, read a book. Hexbear comments criticizing Russia and China (prepare for the goal posts to move lmao): [1] [2] [3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent [–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago You're not gonna find any utopian communists on hexbear, they're almost all marxists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago https://hexbear.net/comment/2175192 Putin does not care about the well-being of Ukrainian citizens Of course not, he has never. He is acting in self-interest because Ukraine and the US are escalating violence. Do you remember the lethal aid Biden sent? Where do you think that lethal aid went? Who do you think it was shot at? we’re teetering on Putin apologia and sharing RT news uncritically. Putin is a corrupt bastard. I think many on this site cannot tell the difference between not viewing him as satanic vs licking his boot. I wasn't going to try to argue this until your post came up. https://hexbear.net/comment/290125 So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* in case you needed a reminder that Putin is in fact a bad person (58 upvotes, 1 year ago) Fuck off and stop lying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Communist utopia" is the strawman of any support whatsoever for China and the DPRK, they're arguing in bad faith. They know this but it will be fun to see their example (probably a shitpost from 2 years ago). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago imagine actually reading marx and understanding how he literally wrote an essay about how marxism is not utopian permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago imagine actually reading marx and understanding how he literally wrote an essay about how marxism is not utopian permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Nah im good. Ive seen it myself and im not interested in going back to that cesspool. Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's CPC, read a book. Hexbear comments criticizing Russia and China (prepare for the goal posts to move lmao): [1] [2] [3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent [–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago You're not gonna find any utopian communists on hexbear, they're almost all marxists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago https://hexbear.net/comment/2175192 Putin does not care about the well-being of Ukrainian citizens Of course not, he has never. He is acting in self-interest because Ukraine and the US are escalating violence. Do you remember the lethal aid Biden sent? Where do you think that lethal aid went? Who do you think it was shot at? we’re teetering on Putin apologia and sharing RT news uncritically. Putin is a corrupt bastard. I think many on this site cannot tell the difference between not viewing him as satanic vs licking his boot. I wasn't going to try to argue this until your post came up. https://hexbear.net/comment/290125 So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* in case you needed a reminder that Putin is in fact a bad person (58 upvotes, 1 year ago) Fuck off and stop lying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's CPC, read a book. Hexbear comments criticizing Russia and China (prepare for the goal posts to move lmao): [1] [2] [3] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party Its both. Be less of a dick. Thanks for post examples of modern day russia being authoritarian, homophobia is usually a sign of authoritarianism. So i guess you got me. Russia still sux. What was your point again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent [–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why dont you show me an example of someone on hexbear critizing russia or ccp? Literally one example. Thank you for confirming that you asked this in bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) what's in good faith is citing a wikipedia article that in fact proves my point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), Literally the first line! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its both. No, it's just one, but western press likes to use the other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Ok permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) "In English they call themselves the Vietnamese, but everyone in my neighborhood calls them ****s. It's both." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I dont understand what you are saying here are you calling me racist again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I called you racist to start with, but my point was that just because something is called by X name in one context by one group of people and Y in another context by another group does not mean both names are equally valid. When it comes to political entities, typically the belief is that the group itself decides on its own name (like Kiev officially becoming Kyiv in English, to take a recent example). The CPC says that its name is the CPC. Western journos who want their readership to hate the Party call it the CCP. These are not equally valid bases for what to call something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago I did not know that was the case. So I see your point. I will from now on use CPC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that it's okay to call a group a term used almost exclusively by their political enemies who want them completely destroyed, I think it's pretty obvious that you're a racist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ok. I wasnt argue to use it. I was just going off of what wikipedia said. Lol I can change the term. Cpc it is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) We're mainly waiting for you to say "Yes, I was wrong, Hexbear doesn't shill for Russia/China/DPRK and call them communist utopias, and I guess tankies is kind of a meaningless term.". I think that was the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprinklebump@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean as I stated in other comments i went to hexbear a few months ago and saw a bunch of people doing this very thing. So if you want yo say that experiance was a fluke ok. But stop trying to paint me as a liar. Also tankie has real meaning to anarchist. So I dont feel it is meaningless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago I still have to meet an anarchist IRL who 1) knows about the term 'tankie' let alone 2) uses it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago You're not gonna find any utopian communists on hexbear, they're almost all marxists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago https://hexbear.net/comment/2175192 Putin does not care about the well-being of Ukrainian citizens Of course not, he has never. He is acting in self-interest because Ukraine and the US are escalating violence. Do you remember the lethal aid Biden sent? Where do you think that lethal aid went? Who do you think it was shot at? we’re teetering on Putin apologia and sharing RT news uncritically. Putin is a corrupt bastard. I think many on this site cannot tell the difference between not viewing him as satanic vs licking his boot. I wasn't going to try to argue this until your post came up. https://hexbear.net/comment/290125 So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* in case you needed a reminder that Putin is in fact a bad person (58 upvotes, 1 year ago) Fuck off and stop lying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Hexbear, not even once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago But why would you believe your lying eyes? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1783563 This comment is above yours on this thread. Or at least, NK would apparently be a utopia if it had more resources. permalink fedilink source parent