▲ 1426 ▼ Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by Pips@lemmy.film to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 786 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thank you for confirming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) You seem to be under some kind of belief that people should be ashamed of an accurate assessment of NATO, and that it is some sort of mistake to stand by it. This is weird permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Emu@lemmy.ml -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) NATO does more good than ruZZia for the world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) What good does it do? When was the last time they did good? The current Russian state and NATO can both burn as far as I'm concerned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so are tankies anti-NATO? All leftists are anti-NATO lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Silverseren@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago Tankies are more specifically pro-dictatorship and pro-oligarchy so long as the countries claim to be Communist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 years ago (2 children) gaddafi was sodomized to death with a knife. i can hardly think of a more cartoonishly evil organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Was that decided by NATO? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You're saying that the NATO bombings and the NATO-backed rebels had nothing to do with it..? He was fleeing a NATO air strike. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oce@jlai.lu -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, you're shifting the subject, you were talking about how he died precisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent [–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* Yes. Gaddafi was also certainly killed based on French intelligence, and there is substantial evidence that the men who assassinated him were French assets. Part of the reason, apart from the broader geopolitical aim of annihilating a country which wanted to engage in the construction of international monetary and commerical systems outside of the orbit and control of the American petro-dollar, Gaddafi had essentially bribed Sarkozy at a certain point and was holding this over the latter's head (Sarkozy is infamously corrupt). See: https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/021012/gaddafi-executed-french-revelations-libyan-agent https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/french-secret-service-killed-gaddafi-sarkozys-orders-reports https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20121001-french-spy-killed-kadhafi-sarkozys-orders-papers-claim https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210759/Gaddafi-killed-French-secret-serviceman-orders-Nicolas-Sarkozy-sources-claim.html https://www.euronews.com/2018/03/20/sarkozy-in-libya-case-what-does-it-all-mean- Hegemon's have to rule by fear. Read any bloodsoaked page from the history of the Roman Empire. Fear is best instilled through unimaginable atrocity. What do you think the rulers of the rest of Africa and the Middle East thought after they saw how Gaddafi, head of the most prosperous (per-capita, quality of life, standard of living, etc.) state in Africa, ended up? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Silverseren@kbin.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) By his people, yes. Not sure what that has to do with NATO or even why that was a bad thing. Funny and horrific ends for genocidal dictators is overall a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago Yes, what could NATO-funded rebels and NATO bombings have to do with the brutal execution of a man fleeing both. Sexual violence isn't funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) You seem to be under some kind of belief that people should be ashamed of an accurate assessment of NATO, and that it is some sort of mistake to stand by it. This is weird permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Emu@lemmy.ml -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) NATO does more good than ruZZia for the world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) What good does it do? When was the last time they did good? The current Russian state and NATO can both burn as far as I'm concerned. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Emu@lemmy.ml -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) NATO does more good than ruZZia for the world permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) What good does it do? When was the last time they did good? The current Russian state and NATO can both burn as far as I'm concerned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) What good does it do? When was the last time they did good? The current Russian state and NATO can both burn as far as I'm concerned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so are tankies anti-NATO? All leftists are anti-NATO lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Silverseren@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago Tankies are more specifically pro-dictatorship and pro-oligarchy so long as the countries claim to be Communist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago Tankies are more specifically pro-dictatorship and pro-oligarchy so long as the countries claim to be Communist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 years ago (2 children) gaddafi was sodomized to death with a knife. i can hardly think of a more cartoonishly evil organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Was that decided by NATO? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You're saying that the NATO bombings and the NATO-backed rebels had nothing to do with it..? He was fleeing a NATO air strike. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oce@jlai.lu -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, you're shifting the subject, you were talking about how he died precisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent [–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* Yes. Gaddafi was also certainly killed based on French intelligence, and there is substantial evidence that the men who assassinated him were French assets. Part of the reason, apart from the broader geopolitical aim of annihilating a country which wanted to engage in the construction of international monetary and commerical systems outside of the orbit and control of the American petro-dollar, Gaddafi had essentially bribed Sarkozy at a certain point and was holding this over the latter's head (Sarkozy is infamously corrupt). See: https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/021012/gaddafi-executed-french-revelations-libyan-agent https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/french-secret-service-killed-gaddafi-sarkozys-orders-reports https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20121001-french-spy-killed-kadhafi-sarkozys-orders-papers-claim https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210759/Gaddafi-killed-French-secret-serviceman-orders-Nicolas-Sarkozy-sources-claim.html https://www.euronews.com/2018/03/20/sarkozy-in-libya-case-what-does-it-all-mean- Hegemon's have to rule by fear. Read any bloodsoaked page from the history of the Roman Empire. Fear is best instilled through unimaginable atrocity. What do you think the rulers of the rest of Africa and the Middle East thought after they saw how Gaddafi, head of the most prosperous (per-capita, quality of life, standard of living, etc.) state in Africa, ended up? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Silverseren@kbin.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) By his people, yes. Not sure what that has to do with NATO or even why that was a bad thing. Funny and horrific ends for genocidal dictators is overall a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago Yes, what could NATO-funded rebels and NATO bombings have to do with the brutal execution of a man fleeing both. Sexual violence isn't funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Was that decided by NATO? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You're saying that the NATO bombings and the NATO-backed rebels had nothing to do with it..? He was fleeing a NATO air strike. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oce@jlai.lu -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, you're shifting the subject, you were talking about how he died precisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent [–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* Yes. Gaddafi was also certainly killed based on French intelligence, and there is substantial evidence that the men who assassinated him were French assets. Part of the reason, apart from the broader geopolitical aim of annihilating a country which wanted to engage in the construction of international monetary and commerical systems outside of the orbit and control of the American petro-dollar, Gaddafi had essentially bribed Sarkozy at a certain point and was holding this over the latter's head (Sarkozy is infamously corrupt). See: https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/021012/gaddafi-executed-french-revelations-libyan-agent https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/french-secret-service-killed-gaddafi-sarkozys-orders-reports https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20121001-french-spy-killed-kadhafi-sarkozys-orders-papers-claim https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210759/Gaddafi-killed-French-secret-serviceman-orders-Nicolas-Sarkozy-sources-claim.html https://www.euronews.com/2018/03/20/sarkozy-in-libya-case-what-does-it-all-mean- Hegemon's have to rule by fear. Read any bloodsoaked page from the history of the Roman Empire. Fear is best instilled through unimaginable atrocity. What do you think the rulers of the rest of Africa and the Middle East thought after they saw how Gaddafi, head of the most prosperous (per-capita, quality of life, standard of living, etc.) state in Africa, ended up? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You're saying that the NATO bombings and the NATO-backed rebels had nothing to do with it..? He was fleeing a NATO air strike. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oce@jlai.lu -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, you're shifting the subject, you were talking about how he died precisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent [–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] oce@jlai.lu -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, you're shifting the subject, you were talking about how he died precisely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent [–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Romeo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago The bombs he was fleeing from were decided by NATO, the militias were funded and supported by NATO; the same one that eventually found him and sodomized him to death with a bayonet. What will be evidence enough for you? Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died." quip? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago lmao this is like saying if I push someone off a cliff, I'm actually innocent because the ground killed them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* Yes. Gaddafi was also certainly killed based on French intelligence, and there is substantial evidence that the men who assassinated him were French assets. Part of the reason, apart from the broader geopolitical aim of annihilating a country which wanted to engage in the construction of international monetary and commerical systems outside of the orbit and control of the American petro-dollar, Gaddafi had essentially bribed Sarkozy at a certain point and was holding this over the latter's head (Sarkozy is infamously corrupt). See: https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/021012/gaddafi-executed-french-revelations-libyan-agent https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/french-secret-service-killed-gaddafi-sarkozys-orders-reports https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20121001-french-spy-killed-kadhafi-sarkozys-orders-papers-claim https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210759/Gaddafi-killed-French-secret-serviceman-orders-Nicolas-Sarkozy-sources-claim.html https://www.euronews.com/2018/03/20/sarkozy-in-libya-case-what-does-it-all-mean- Hegemon's have to rule by fear. Read any bloodsoaked page from the history of the Roman Empire. Fear is best instilled through unimaginable atrocity. What do you think the rulers of the rest of Africa and the Middle East thought after they saw how Gaddafi, head of the most prosperous (per-capita, quality of life, standard of living, etc.) state in Africa, ended up? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Silverseren@kbin.social -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) By his people, yes. Not sure what that has to do with NATO or even why that was a bad thing. Funny and horrific ends for genocidal dictators is overall a good thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago Yes, what could NATO-funded rebels and NATO bombings have to do with the brutal execution of a man fleeing both. Sexual violence isn't funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago Yes, what could NATO-funded rebels and NATO bombings have to do with the brutal execution of a man fleeing both. Sexual violence isn't funny. permalink fedilink source parent