▲ 508 ▼ Microsoft is reworking Recall after researchers point out its security problems (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by Spotlight7573@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 90 comments fedilink hide all child comments the company says that Recall will be opt-in by default, so users will need to decide to turn it on
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (4 children) they needed researchers to tell them that? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Well . . . the smart people they ignored when CoPilot was first proposed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago It's PR bullshit to give an excuse for backtracking basically permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Internally people probably talked about how there were huge issues. Others probably said those issues are over stated and it's no big deal. They decided to release it and the press says there are issues. Then, the company decides there are issues. That simple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having been the guy in an org shouting not to do something only for it to come back to us this way, the finger-pointing that begins is nuts. Often the people who tried to stop the "feature" from rolling out are the first to get blamed for it being shit. Classic CYA, make sure everything you said is in writing somewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I have as well. I won't pretend I'm always right - I've thought some ideas that worked out incredibly were horrible. Also had the situation you describe happen. It's okay when you're working with reasonable people. Show them the slide deck, the email, the analysis, whatever... "Look you didn't approve this". "Here is an alternative ". That can work. Just telling folks "I told you so" isn't usually a great form of communication. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's just what we call people spending some time to figure something out. Security research is basically just trying to learn the technology and then trying to break it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) it did not take me long to figure out that maybe spyware that takes screenshots of what you're doing is a bad idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Agreed but someone actually tried it - did the research. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago Well . . . the smart people they ignored when CoPilot was first proposed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago It's PR bullshit to give an excuse for backtracking basically permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Internally people probably talked about how there were huge issues. Others probably said those issues are over stated and it's no big deal. They decided to release it and the press says there are issues. Then, the company decides there are issues. That simple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having been the guy in an org shouting not to do something only for it to come back to us this way, the finger-pointing that begins is nuts. Often the people who tried to stop the "feature" from rolling out are the first to get blamed for it being shit. Classic CYA, make sure everything you said is in writing somewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I have as well. I won't pretend I'm always right - I've thought some ideas that worked out incredibly were horrible. Also had the situation you describe happen. It's okay when you're working with reasonable people. Show them the slide deck, the email, the analysis, whatever... "Look you didn't approve this". "Here is an alternative ". That can work. Just telling folks "I told you so" isn't usually a great form of communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having been the guy in an org shouting not to do something only for it to come back to us this way, the finger-pointing that begins is nuts. Often the people who tried to stop the "feature" from rolling out are the first to get blamed for it being shit. Classic CYA, make sure everything you said is in writing somewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I have as well. I won't pretend I'm always right - I've thought some ideas that worked out incredibly were horrible. Also had the situation you describe happen. It's okay when you're working with reasonable people. Show them the slide deck, the email, the analysis, whatever... "Look you didn't approve this". "Here is an alternative ". That can work. Just telling folks "I told you so" isn't usually a great form of communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I have as well. I won't pretend I'm always right - I've thought some ideas that worked out incredibly were horrible. Also had the situation you describe happen. It's okay when you're working with reasonable people. Show them the slide deck, the email, the analysis, whatever... "Look you didn't approve this". "Here is an alternative ". That can work. Just telling folks "I told you so" isn't usually a great form of communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's just what we call people spending some time to figure something out. Security research is basically just trying to learn the technology and then trying to break it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shneancy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) it did not take me long to figure out that maybe spyware that takes screenshots of what you're doing is a bad idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Agreed but someone actually tried it - did the research. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) it did not take me long to figure out that maybe spyware that takes screenshots of what you're doing is a bad idea permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Agreed but someone actually tried it - did the research. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago Agreed but someone actually tried it - did the research. permalink fedilink source parent