▲ 331 ▼ I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows. (feddit.de) submitted 2 years ago by Gurfaild@feddit.de to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 years ago (10 children) The most impressive is a windows machine with 13 days of uptime permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have 3 windows machines in my house that are over 50 days running right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it. That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows updates are particularly under-tested permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious. Long uptimes are not an issue anymore on Windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can turn those off with the pro version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 8 points 2 years ago fastboot entered the chat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) tbf I regularly have an uptime of 14+ minutes on my gaming rig. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected "features". I've started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up permalink fedilink source parent [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Hibernation baby! permalink fedilink source parent [–] theoware@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Quite normal for a laptop, since it can use Windows Modern Standby (if it works) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I recently took down a Windows server for a reboot at 1300 days uptime permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It hadn't been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I'm assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago It hadn’t been updated in 3.5 years? Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about permalink fedilink source parent [–] atocci@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I'm at 15 on my Minecraft server now, but I'm pretty sure the last restart was intentional also permalink fedilink source parent [–] whileloop@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I once saw a computer at my workplace with over a year of uptime... permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Sleep, Data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have 3 windows machines in my house that are over 50 days running right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it. That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows updates are particularly under-tested permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it. That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows updates are particularly under-tested permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it. That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows updates are particularly under-tested permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it. That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer. So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs. And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering. Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Glad you found something that worked! I solved the problem by not installing. That works better for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows updates are particularly under-tested permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2. Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious. Long uptimes are not an issue anymore on Windows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can turn those off with the pro version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can turn those off with the pro version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drekly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can turn those off with the pro version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you do know that isn't a problem then... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago It's absolutely a problem... For some people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 8 points 2 years ago fastboot entered the chat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) tbf I regularly have an uptime of 14+ minutes on my gaming rig. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected "features". I've started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected "features". I've started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theoware@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Quite normal for a laptop, since it can use Windows Modern Standby (if it works) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I recently took down a Windows server for a reboot at 1300 days uptime permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jcg@halubilo.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It hadn't been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I'm assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago It hadn’t been updated in 3.5 years? Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jcg@halubilo.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It hadn't been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I'm assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago It hadn’t been updated in 3.5 years? Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago It hadn’t been updated in 3.5 years? Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atocci@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago I'm at 15 on my Minecraft server now, but I'm pretty sure the last restart was intentional also permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I once saw a computer at my workplace with over a year of uptime... permalink fedilink source parent
