▲ 13 ▼ US Abrams tanks failing in Ukraine as Russia mocks them as ‘empty tin cans’ (www.yahoo.com) submitted 2 years ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) So why did they send them to Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] exanime@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago Because money, the answer is money permalink fedilink source parent [–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago Because it’s good to get rid of old equipment, at least from the military’s perspective. They get money for the old hardware and now can justify getting more new stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because having a tank is still better than not having a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? Sounds like they just make easier targets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To people that don't know what they're talking about, or are still refusing to acknowledge that Ukraine has more tanks than it started with and Russia has many, many, many, fewer, sure. The discrepancy is so large that Ukraine has more tanks than Russia now. That they're effectively obsolete for their price is irrelevant, it's still better and requires more firepower to deal with than a couple dudes with rifles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What does that have to do with the tanks they have being blown up so easily? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) For the same reason they have sent billions of dollars there…to show their support. This isn’t the first country that the US has provided equipment for with little or no training…or without critical equipment onboard (i.e. specialized RADAR or electronics systems) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol nothing shows your support like tin cans that get blown up easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Once again, it depends on how their are used, deployed, and how the crews are trained. The Ukraine may be using them in ways that they were not designed, or using tactics that put the tank in a bad position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exanime@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago Because money, the answer is money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago Because it’s good to get rid of old equipment, at least from the military’s perspective. They get money for the old hardware and now can justify getting more new stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because having a tank is still better than not having a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? Sounds like they just make easier targets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To people that don't know what they're talking about, or are still refusing to acknowledge that Ukraine has more tanks than it started with and Russia has many, many, many, fewer, sure. The discrepancy is so large that Ukraine has more tanks than Russia now. That they're effectively obsolete for their price is irrelevant, it's still better and requires more firepower to deal with than a couple dudes with rifles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What does that have to do with the tanks they have being blown up so easily? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Really? Sounds like they just make easier targets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To people that don't know what they're talking about, or are still refusing to acknowledge that Ukraine has more tanks than it started with and Russia has many, many, many, fewer, sure. The discrepancy is so large that Ukraine has more tanks than Russia now. That they're effectively obsolete for their price is irrelevant, it's still better and requires more firepower to deal with than a couple dudes with rifles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What does that have to do with the tanks they have being blown up so easily? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) To people that don't know what they're talking about, or are still refusing to acknowledge that Ukraine has more tanks than it started with and Russia has many, many, many, fewer, sure. The discrepancy is so large that Ukraine has more tanks than Russia now. That they're effectively obsolete for their price is irrelevant, it's still better and requires more firepower to deal with than a couple dudes with rifles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What does that have to do with the tanks they have being blown up so easily? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What does that have to do with the tanks they have being blown up so easily? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol. Vatnik cope has no intellectual limits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Vatnik: A perjoritive referring to a person that eagerly and without criticism repeats jingoistic propaganda claims of the Russian government. In this context, someone pretending they don't understand that it's easier and cheaper to kill a person than a tank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago So because I think we shouldn't send tanks to a warzone where its only going to be used to kill people and turn the operator into a much larger less maneuverable target that makes me some kind if Russian stooge? Maybe its you that has been propagandized into thinking more tanks in a war zone is a good thing. Ive always been taught war is bad and it should not be prolonged. This is just prolonging it while getting more Ukrainians and Russians killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) For the same reason they have sent billions of dollars there…to show their support. This isn’t the first country that the US has provided equipment for with little or no training…or without critical equipment onboard (i.e. specialized RADAR or electronics systems) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol nothing shows your support like tin cans that get blown up easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Once again, it depends on how their are used, deployed, and how the crews are trained. The Ukraine may be using them in ways that they were not designed, or using tactics that put the tank in a bad position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Lol nothing shows your support like tin cans that get blown up easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Once again, it depends on how their are used, deployed, and how the crews are trained. The Ukraine may be using them in ways that they were not designed, or using tactics that put the tank in a bad position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JokerCharlie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Once again, it depends on how their are used, deployed, and how the crews are trained. The Ukraine may be using them in ways that they were not designed, or using tactics that put the tank in a bad position. permalink fedilink source parent