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[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (3 children) Republicans don't really want a functioning government. They just want something they can control. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 years ago Yea it’s called fascism permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Totally agree, and yet once Trump is finally dead and gone, roughly 1/2 of the voters in this country will shockingly be willing to give the next leader of the GOP another shot at driving us into the ground. Even many of those who admit to hating Trump, somehow are willing to clean the slate with some other future Republican candidate. That's one of the most infuriating things that I have seen over the years. It doesn't matter how badly one Republican politician screws up. It doesn't matter how many times it happens or how many others are involved and helped along the way, the party as a whole never gets tainted by their corruption and incompetence. This is the single biggest failure of the Democratic party that they can't taint the corruption of Trump onto ALL other Republicans. They couldn't do that with George W a generation ago. They couldn't do that with Reagan some 40 years ago, and they couldn't do that with Nixon some 60 years ago. On the flip side, if Pelosi did one stupid gaffe, every Democrat since the beginning of time would be painted with the same wide brush. Most elected Dems are fairly moderate, and yet you have one left-wing Democrat saying some rather extreme stuff and somehow the entire DNC is labeled as being socialist or communist or some other extreme position that is simply not true. A long time ago, Republicans poisoned the well that is the term "liberal" so these days all a Republican needs to do is say that one word and his Democratic opponent will lose votes no matter how moderate that person might be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) Really sad the GOP has the better "Brand" when in reality they're just Nazi's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because it's full of salesmen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable. What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago* Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings. Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because our population is too stupid permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah they have a plan, it's an army of Kyle Rittenhouses and executive pardons for terrorism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 years ago Yea it’s called fascism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Totally agree, and yet once Trump is finally dead and gone, roughly 1/2 of the voters in this country will shockingly be willing to give the next leader of the GOP another shot at driving us into the ground. Even many of those who admit to hating Trump, somehow are willing to clean the slate with some other future Republican candidate. That's one of the most infuriating things that I have seen over the years. It doesn't matter how badly one Republican politician screws up. It doesn't matter how many times it happens or how many others are involved and helped along the way, the party as a whole never gets tainted by their corruption and incompetence. This is the single biggest failure of the Democratic party that they can't taint the corruption of Trump onto ALL other Republicans. They couldn't do that with George W a generation ago. They couldn't do that with Reagan some 40 years ago, and they couldn't do that with Nixon some 60 years ago. On the flip side, if Pelosi did one stupid gaffe, every Democrat since the beginning of time would be painted with the same wide brush. Most elected Dems are fairly moderate, and yet you have one left-wing Democrat saying some rather extreme stuff and somehow the entire DNC is labeled as being socialist or communist or some other extreme position that is simply not true. A long time ago, Republicans poisoned the well that is the term "liberal" so these days all a Republican needs to do is say that one word and his Democratic opponent will lose votes no matter how moderate that person might be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) Really sad the GOP has the better "Brand" when in reality they're just Nazi's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because it's full of salesmen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable. What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago* Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings. Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because our population is too stupid permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) Really sad the GOP has the better "Brand" when in reality they're just Nazi's permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because it's full of salesmen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable. What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago* Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings. Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because our population is too stupid permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because it's full of salesmen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable. What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bill@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago* Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings. Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bill@fedia.io 1 point 2 years ago* Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings. Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because our population is too stupid permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah they have a plan, it's an army of Kyle Rittenhouses and executive pardons for terrorism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Nah they have a plan, it's an army of Kyle Rittenhouses and executive pardons for terrorism. permalink fedilink source parent