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[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your definitions are overly simplistic. There are bigender people who are male and female and are still non-binary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can't be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can't be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn't a contested one. Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) "It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women." Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out. Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can't be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can't be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn't a contested one. Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) "It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women." Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out. Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn't a contested one. Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) "It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women." Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out. Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) "It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women." Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out. Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) "It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women." Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out. Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature: > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CheesyCheese1@lemmy.ca [S] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs. But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for. But since when is being trans about suffering? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you. You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do. But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org 4 points 2 years ago You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe. So where should they go? You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying *you* don't realise that about womanhood. End the cycle. Please. permalink fedilink source parent
