▲ 510 ▼ FBI Arrests Man For Generating AI Child Sexual Abuse Imagery (www.404media.co) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 296 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (3 children) Bad title. They caught him not simply for creating pics, but also for trading such pics etc. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can get away with a lot of heinous crimes by simply not telling people and sharing the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You consider it a heinous crime to draw a picture and keep it to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Read the article. He was arrested for sending the pictures to at least one minor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Re-read RickyRigatoni's comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Glass0448@lemmy.today -3 points 2 years ago Creating the pics is a crime by itself. https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/possession-of-lolicon permalink fedilink source parent [+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's sickening to know there are bastards out there who will get away with it since they are only creating it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not sure. Let us assume that you generate it on your own PC at home (not using a public service) and don't brag about it and never give it to anybody - what harm is done? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Society is not ok with the idea of someone cranking to CSAM, then just walking around town. It gives people wolf-in-sheep-clothing vibes. So the notion of there being "ok" CSAM-style ai content is a non starter for a huge fraction of people because it still suggests appeasing a predator. I'm definitely one of those people that simply can't accept any version of it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even if the AI didn't train itself on actual CSAM that is something that feels inherently wrong. Your mind is not right to think that's acceptable IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Laws shouldn't be about feelings though and we shouldn't prosecute people for victimless thought crimes. How often did you think something violent when someone really pissed you off? Should you have been persecuted for that thought too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can get away with a lot of heinous crimes by simply not telling people and sharing the results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You consider it a heinous crime to draw a picture and keep it to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Read the article. He was arrested for sending the pictures to at least one minor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Re-read RickyRigatoni's comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You consider it a heinous crime to draw a picture and keep it to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Read the article. He was arrested for sending the pictures to at least one minor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Re-read RickyRigatoni's comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Read the article. He was arrested for sending the pictures to at least one minor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Re-read RickyRigatoni's comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Re-read RickyRigatoni's comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glass0448@lemmy.today -3 points 2 years ago Creating the pics is a crime by itself. https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/possession-of-lolicon permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's sickening to know there are bastards out there who will get away with it since they are only creating it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not sure. Let us assume that you generate it on your own PC at home (not using a public service) and don't brag about it and never give it to anybody - what harm is done? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Society is not ok with the idea of someone cranking to CSAM, then just walking around town. It gives people wolf-in-sheep-clothing vibes. So the notion of there being "ok" CSAM-style ai content is a non starter for a huge fraction of people because it still suggests appeasing a predator. I'm definitely one of those people that simply can't accept any version of it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even if the AI didn't train itself on actual CSAM that is something that feels inherently wrong. Your mind is not right to think that's acceptable IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Laws shouldn't be about feelings though and we shouldn't prosecute people for victimless thought crimes. How often did you think something violent when someone really pissed you off? Should you have been persecuted for that thought too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm not sure. Let us assume that you generate it on your own PC at home (not using a public service) and don't brag about it and never give it to anybody - what harm is done? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Society is not ok with the idea of someone cranking to CSAM, then just walking around town. It gives people wolf-in-sheep-clothing vibes. So the notion of there being "ok" CSAM-style ai content is a non starter for a huge fraction of people because it still suggests appeasing a predator. I'm definitely one of those people that simply can't accept any version of it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even if the AI didn't train itself on actual CSAM that is something that feels inherently wrong. Your mind is not right to think that's acceptable IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Laws shouldn't be about feelings though and we shouldn't prosecute people for victimless thought crimes. How often did you think something violent when someone really pissed you off? Should you have been persecuted for that thought too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Society is not ok with the idea of someone cranking to CSAM, then just walking around town. It gives people wolf-in-sheep-clothing vibes. So the notion of there being "ok" CSAM-style ai content is a non starter for a huge fraction of people because it still suggests appeasing a predator. I'm definitely one of those people that simply can't accept any version of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even if the AI didn't train itself on actual CSAM that is something that feels inherently wrong. Your mind is not right to think that's acceptable IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Laws shouldn't be about feelings though and we shouldn't prosecute people for victimless thought crimes. How often did you think something violent when someone really pissed you off? Should you have been persecuted for that thought too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Laws shouldn't be about feelings though and we shouldn't prosecute people for victimless thought crimes. How often did you think something violent when someone really pissed you off? Should you have been persecuted for that thought too? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This goes away further than a thought permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago Who are the victims of someone generating such images privately then? It's on the same level as all the various fan fiction shit that was created manually over all the past decades. And do we apply this to other depictions of criminalized things too? Would we ban the depiction of violence & sexual violence on TV, in books, and in video games too? permalink fedilink source parent