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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I want to see engineers run companies that make things I see you've never worked with engineers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I am an engineer so take what you like from that information. I know the stereotype well but the best business leaders I've ever worked with directly were good engineers before they were anything else. I don't think it's possible to have a sustainable business plan without a rigorous understanding of every part of the process of making whatever it is that you're selling. There isn't anyone out there who knows that better than the engineers who design and build it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Dog, we're all engineers. And the worst business leaders I've ever worked with directly were good engineers before they got promoted into positions of management (or started their own terrible business, as the case might be) in which they had no business being because the skill requirements for engineering are not automatically transferable to managing people. It's called the Peter Principle, and there's some real truth to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Haha yeah that's true but I don't think it negates what I'm saying. Some people aren't cut out for management and that's perfectly fine. However, getting an MBA isn't going to change you from one type of person to the other. Assuming that the basic characteristics of a manager are present in either case then I absolutely believe that an engineer will make a better high level leader than an MBA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago However, getting an MBA isn’t going to change you from one type of person to the other. Sure, an MBA is sort of useless. Management is largely based around personality. And you can't really teach personality. It's the same way for a lot of professions, like teaching, actually. In fact, I'd say the management pool should be drawn from people who were accomplished high school teachers. There's a lot of crossover there in terms of organization, planning, and dealing with a bunch of people who all hate the work you make them do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sudo42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'd rephrase it to be, "People who've worked their way up the ranks within the company have the most experience at all levels and understand what it takes to provide a good product. Those people can make good managers." Jag-offs that graduate Stanford and just want to extract money are leaches and should be salted immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I am an engineer so take what you like from that information. I know the stereotype well but the best business leaders I've ever worked with directly were good engineers before they were anything else. I don't think it's possible to have a sustainable business plan without a rigorous understanding of every part of the process of making whatever it is that you're selling. There isn't anyone out there who knows that better than the engineers who design and build it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Dog, we're all engineers. And the worst business leaders I've ever worked with directly were good engineers before they got promoted into positions of management (or started their own terrible business, as the case might be) in which they had no business being because the skill requirements for engineering are not automatically transferable to managing people. It's called the Peter Principle, and there's some real truth to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Haha yeah that's true but I don't think it negates what I'm saying. Some people aren't cut out for management and that's perfectly fine. However, getting an MBA isn't going to change you from one type of person to the other. Assuming that the basic characteristics of a manager are present in either case then I absolutely believe that an engineer will make a better high level leader than an MBA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago However, getting an MBA isn’t going to change you from one type of person to the other. Sure, an MBA is sort of useless. Management is largely based around personality. And you can't really teach personality. It's the same way for a lot of professions, like teaching, actually. In fact, I'd say the management pool should be drawn from people who were accomplished high school teachers. There's a lot of crossover there in terms of organization, planning, and dealing with a bunch of people who all hate the work you make them do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sudo42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'd rephrase it to be, "People who've worked their way up the ranks within the company have the most experience at all levels and understand what it takes to provide a good product. Those people can make good managers." Jag-offs that graduate Stanford and just want to extract money are leaches and should be salted immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Dog, we're all engineers. And the worst business leaders I've ever worked with directly were good engineers before they got promoted into positions of management (or started their own terrible business, as the case might be) in which they had no business being because the skill requirements for engineering are not automatically transferable to managing people. It's called the Peter Principle, and there's some real truth to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Haha yeah that's true but I don't think it negates what I'm saying. Some people aren't cut out for management and that's perfectly fine. However, getting an MBA isn't going to change you from one type of person to the other. Assuming that the basic characteristics of a manager are present in either case then I absolutely believe that an engineer will make a better high level leader than an MBA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago However, getting an MBA isn’t going to change you from one type of person to the other. Sure, an MBA is sort of useless. Management is largely based around personality. And you can't really teach personality. It's the same way for a lot of professions, like teaching, actually. In fact, I'd say the management pool should be drawn from people who were accomplished high school teachers. There's a lot of crossover there in terms of organization, planning, and dealing with a bunch of people who all hate the work you make them do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sudo42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'd rephrase it to be, "People who've worked their way up the ranks within the company have the most experience at all levels and understand what it takes to provide a good product. Those people can make good managers." Jag-offs that graduate Stanford and just want to extract money are leaches and should be salted immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Haha yeah that's true but I don't think it negates what I'm saying. Some people aren't cut out for management and that's perfectly fine. However, getting an MBA isn't going to change you from one type of person to the other. Assuming that the basic characteristics of a manager are present in either case then I absolutely believe that an engineer will make a better high level leader than an MBA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago However, getting an MBA isn’t going to change you from one type of person to the other. Sure, an MBA is sort of useless. Management is largely based around personality. And you can't really teach personality. It's the same way for a lot of professions, like teaching, actually. In fact, I'd say the management pool should be drawn from people who were accomplished high school teachers. There's a lot of crossover there in terms of organization, planning, and dealing with a bunch of people who all hate the work you make them do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago However, getting an MBA isn’t going to change you from one type of person to the other. Sure, an MBA is sort of useless. Management is largely based around personality. And you can't really teach personality. It's the same way for a lot of professions, like teaching, actually. In fact, I'd say the management pool should be drawn from people who were accomplished high school teachers. There's a lot of crossover there in terms of organization, planning, and dealing with a bunch of people who all hate the work you make them do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'd rephrase it to be, "People who've worked their way up the ranks within the company have the most experience at all levels and understand what it takes to provide a good product. Those people can make good managers." Jag-offs that graduate Stanford and just want to extract money are leaches and should be salted immediately. permalink fedilink source parent