▲ 396 ▼ GitHub to require 2FA on accounts by October 6, 2023 (github.blog) submitted 3 years ago* by Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev to c/technology@lemmy.ml 125 comments fedilink hide all child comments I personally am fine with this.
[+] SkullHex2@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] vinniep@lemmy.world 51 points 3 years ago Too many people were making poor choices. When there's an incident of an account that should have been secured but wasn't getting compromised, that's bad for the platform, ecosystem, and community. This is just another level beyond not allowing you to set a password of "password" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 years ago Yep. If people care about supply chain attacks or so, just add features that allow only commits from accounts with 2FA to certain repositories. permalink fedilink source parent [–] progandy@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) At least you should be able to use your local password manager as well if you don't care about keeping your 2fa on separate hardware. KeePass 2, KeePassXC, Bitwarden, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Github supports totp and Bitwarden, at least, can store that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30p87@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Though people that have authority over important projects should have proper security, considering how large the internet is, with how many individual parts, the chance of someone being in charge of a large and important project - may it be a browser, compiler/interpreter, utility, library etc. is not even close to zero. So if a (co-)maintainer of a project included as standard utility in Linux Servers, let's say bash for example, is somehow breached, the attacker could push and force merge a malicious obfuscated commit, maybe even with normal content included. As it's from a reputable source, it's not going to be checked as thoroughly as commits from other people. One hour later, every Arch system, desktop and server, has a trojan. Four hours later also all Gentoo systems (got to compile it first). 2 years weeks later regularly updated debian servers now contain malware. A chain of events, fragile to being detected by people monitoring their own activity, other maintainers activity and people reading the source - eg. for security reasons -, but yet, not that unlikely considering the amount of packages present even in a standard install, and needed as dependencies for typical server packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago Organizations can already require 2FA for members of the org. We already had the tools. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vanontom@geddit.social 2 points 3 years ago Bitwarden has 2FA (for paid tier, like $10/year). I don't consider it "real" 2FA, but it's more secure than just a password, and super quick to copy code using browser addon. Useful for certain sites, that don't stay logged in, require every time, etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] randombullet@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Just use a YubiKey and keep it plugged in permalink fedilink source parent [–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Probably just someone at Microsoft trying to get promoted. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Otome-chan@kbin.social -20 points 3 years ago (2 children) they want your phone number so they can track you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Trexman@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) how would they track you? The reason they want a phone number is, that it's a relatively cheap way to ensure people not signing up bots galore, as getting phone numbers en masse is a lot harder than getting email accounts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Otome-chan@kbin.social -3 points 3 years ago (4 children) phone numbers are typically tied to your name/identity, and phone companies can locate you using their towers and such. Giving a company your phone number is identical to giving a company your full legal name and address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago me giving, let's say, twitch my phone number gives them exactly 0 ways of tracking me in any way whatsoever Source: worked for a mobile company permalink fedilink source parent [–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago First part is not quite true, varies by country. Second part is full on Olympic mental gymnastics permalink fedilink source parent [+] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted, it's clear why companies are so eagerly embracing and requiring 2FA -- if the benefits were only for the consumers, it wouldn't be mandated anywhere near this quickly. but when they know they get a real human phone tied to every account, that's a huge motivation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vinniep@lemmy.world 51 points 3 years ago Too many people were making poor choices. When there's an incident of an account that should have been secured but wasn't getting compromised, that's bad for the platform, ecosystem, and community. This is just another level beyond not allowing you to set a password of "password" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 years ago Yep. If people care about supply chain attacks or so, just add features that allow only commits from accounts with 2FA to certain repositories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] progandy@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) At least you should be able to use your local password manager as well if you don't care about keeping your 2fa on separate hardware. KeePass 2, KeePassXC, Bitwarden, ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Github supports totp and Bitwarden, at least, can store that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago Github supports totp and Bitwarden, at least, can store that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 30p87@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Though people that have authority over important projects should have proper security, considering how large the internet is, with how many individual parts, the chance of someone being in charge of a large and important project - may it be a browser, compiler/interpreter, utility, library etc. is not even close to zero. So if a (co-)maintainer of a project included as standard utility in Linux Servers, let's say bash for example, is somehow breached, the attacker could push and force merge a malicious obfuscated commit, maybe even with normal content included. As it's from a reputable source, it's not going to be checked as thoroughly as commits from other people. One hour later, every Arch system, desktop and server, has a trojan. Four hours later also all Gentoo systems (got to compile it first). 2 years weeks later regularly updated debian servers now contain malware. A chain of events, fragile to being detected by people monitoring their own activity, other maintainers activity and people reading the source - eg. for security reasons -, but yet, not that unlikely considering the amount of packages present even in a standard install, and needed as dependencies for typical server packages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago Organizations can already require 2FA for members of the org. We already had the tools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago Organizations can already require 2FA for members of the org. We already had the tools. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vanontom@geddit.social 2 points 3 years ago Bitwarden has 2FA (for paid tier, like $10/year). I don't consider it "real" 2FA, but it's more secure than just a password, and super quick to copy code using browser addon. Useful for certain sites, that don't stay logged in, require every time, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randombullet@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Just use a YubiKey and keep it plugged in permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Probably just someone at Microsoft trying to get promoted. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Otome-chan@kbin.social -20 points 3 years ago (2 children) they want your phone number so they can track you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Trexman@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) how would they track you? The reason they want a phone number is, that it's a relatively cheap way to ensure people not signing up bots galore, as getting phone numbers en masse is a lot harder than getting email accounts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Otome-chan@kbin.social -3 points 3 years ago (4 children) phone numbers are typically tied to your name/identity, and phone companies can locate you using their towers and such. Giving a company your phone number is identical to giving a company your full legal name and address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago me giving, let's say, twitch my phone number gives them exactly 0 ways of tracking me in any way whatsoever Source: worked for a mobile company permalink fedilink source parent [–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago First part is not quite true, varies by country. Second part is full on Olympic mental gymnastics permalink fedilink source parent [+] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted, it's clear why companies are so eagerly embracing and requiring 2FA -- if the benefits were only for the consumers, it wouldn't be mandated anywhere near this quickly. but when they know they get a real human phone tied to every account, that's a huge motivation permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trexman@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) how would they track you? The reason they want a phone number is, that it's a relatively cheap way to ensure people not signing up bots galore, as getting phone numbers en masse is a lot harder than getting email accounts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Otome-chan@kbin.social -3 points 3 years ago (4 children) phone numbers are typically tied to your name/identity, and phone companies can locate you using their towers and such. Giving a company your phone number is identical to giving a company your full legal name and address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago me giving, let's say, twitch my phone number gives them exactly 0 ways of tracking me in any way whatsoever Source: worked for a mobile company permalink fedilink source parent [–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago First part is not quite true, varies by country. Second part is full on Olympic mental gymnastics permalink fedilink source parent [+] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted, it's clear why companies are so eagerly embracing and requiring 2FA -- if the benefits were only for the consumers, it wouldn't be mandated anywhere near this quickly. but when they know they get a real human phone tied to every account, that's a huge motivation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social -3 points 3 years ago (4 children) phone numbers are typically tied to your name/identity, and phone companies can locate you using their towers and such. Giving a company your phone number is identical to giving a company your full legal name and address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago me giving, let's say, twitch my phone number gives them exactly 0 ways of tracking me in any way whatsoever Source: worked for a mobile company permalink fedilink source parent [–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago First part is not quite true, varies by country. Second part is full on Olympic mental gymnastics permalink fedilink source parent [+] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted, it's clear why companies are so eagerly embracing and requiring 2FA -- if the benefits were only for the consumers, it wouldn't be mandated anywhere near this quickly. but when they know they get a real human phone tied to every account, that's a huge motivation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago me giving, let's say, twitch my phone number gives them exactly 0 ways of tracking me in any way whatsoever Source: worked for a mobile company permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago First part is not quite true, varies by country. Second part is full on Olympic mental gymnastics permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 point 3 years ago* That's a pretty absurd take in 2023. Tracking and surveillance is rampant these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted, it's clear why companies are so eagerly embracing and requiring 2FA -- if the benefits were only for the consumers, it wouldn't be mandated anywhere near this quickly. but when they know they get a real human phone tied to every account, that's a huge motivation permalink fedilink source parent