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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) 4k 60fps HDR experience that most people are getting used to from the main console makers What games are you playing on console where you are actually getting 4k native resolution at 60fps? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Racing and Sports games for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What game on what console? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Forza Motorsport will do 4k60 on Series X for example. Most Racing and Sports games will do 4k60 on modern consoles since they're easy to render. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tag365@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Why are they so easy to render compared to other genres? What makes realism so easy to render like it's a newer generation than the console it's on? Like Forza Motorsport 2 on Xbox 360 looks far more detailed than the average Xbox 360 game. What gives? permalink fedilink source parent [+] natecox@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rocket league on ps5 is 4k120 or 4k60 with HDR permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) A PS4 game? Nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Racing and Sports games for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What game on what console? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Forza Motorsport will do 4k60 on Series X for example. Most Racing and Sports games will do 4k60 on modern consoles since they're easy to render. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tag365@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Why are they so easy to render compared to other genres? What makes realism so easy to render like it's a newer generation than the console it's on? Like Forza Motorsport 2 on Xbox 360 looks far more detailed than the average Xbox 360 game. What gives? permalink fedilink source parent [+] natecox@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rocket league on ps5 is 4k120 or 4k60 with HDR permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) A PS4 game? Nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) What game on what console? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Forza Motorsport will do 4k60 on Series X for example. Most Racing and Sports games will do 4k60 on modern consoles since they're easy to render. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tag365@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Why are they so easy to render compared to other genres? What makes realism so easy to render like it's a newer generation than the console it's on? Like Forza Motorsport 2 on Xbox 360 looks far more detailed than the average Xbox 360 game. What gives? permalink fedilink source parent [+] natecox@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rocket league on ps5 is 4k120 or 4k60 with HDR permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) A PS4 game? Nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Forza Motorsport will do 4k60 on Series X for example. Most Racing and Sports games will do 4k60 on modern consoles since they're easy to render. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tag365@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Why are they so easy to render compared to other genres? What makes realism so easy to render like it's a newer generation than the console it's on? Like Forza Motorsport 2 on Xbox 360 looks far more detailed than the average Xbox 360 game. What gives? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago No, Forza Motorsport uses dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k in Performance mode, and in Quality mode it also uses dynamic resolution but targets 30fps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tag365@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Why are they so easy to render compared to other genres? What makes realism so easy to render like it's a newer generation than the console it's on? Like Forza Motorsport 2 on Xbox 360 looks far more detailed than the average Xbox 360 game. What gives? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] natecox@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I was asking specifically about native 4K games, not dynamic resolution upscaled to 4k. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] natecox@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspod@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with your original comment; it's worth using a dedicated PC for gaming on the TV. But I think your second sentence is just parroting current-gen console marketing. It's not actually true that current-gen consoles are providing a 4k@60 HDR experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] natecox@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rocket league on ps5 is 4k120 or 4k60 with HDR permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) A PS4 game? Nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] drspod@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) A PS4 game? Nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It’s been rereleased and enhanced for modern consoles, if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? Lmfao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] drspod@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) if you wanted an answer why are you arguing? It was a rhetorical question. There are no actual current-gen releases running at 4k60 native resolution. They all use dynamic resolution with 1080p-1440p rendering resolution that then upscales to 4k for display. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Factually incorrect. Iirc there is at least a dozen native 4k games on the PS5. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if they also held the opinion that all PS3 games ran at 720p/30 A bunch of first party titles like Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank push native 1080p/60, and look pretty damn great especially considering the time period and 512MB (256MB VRAM) limitation. permalink fedilink source parent