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Helldivers 2 PSN Account Insanity... Did we REALLY Win? (www.youtube.com)
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[–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

We haven't won until the region sales restrictions implementation to avoid legal issues of imposing PSN is rolled back. Fellow divers got refunds, we haven't won until everyone can return to diving.

As far as I'm concerned people are far too eager to call this a win and take Sony at their word without actually caring about the result.

To head off obvious responses Steam doesn't impose restrictions on their own, the publisher is in control on sales and it takes no time at all for Steam to update. So why hasn't Sony done this trivial act already? Because they'll try this again later when they legally can.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It'd be cool if yall could ask them to remove the rootkit too, but IK the average helldiver player is already too stupid to care about that issue.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately that's just the way the industry is going. They'd rather just have overreach and excessive power than deal with the back and forth fight of countering hackers and cheats. I understand why they'd go that way, it's disappointing and concerning, but it's becoming more and more common.

    You could run such games on a separate machine (provided you had the funds), but that's a big buy in for a single game.

    Different people have different tolerances or are ignorant, not stupid. Maybe don't be so condescending to people and you'd get better responses.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lmao, I can think of exactly 2 publishers who do this and they're getting shredded by critics, rn. Security experts think it's a fucking joke for the company and the users alike. Hopefully not "the way the industry is going", more likely to get banned in modern nations, soon.

    Ignorance, especially willful, is not only a good definition of stupid but also a form of evil itself.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Easy Anti-Cheat is Kernel level. Lots more than 2 publishers are using kernel level Anti-Cheat.

    I guess you're evil now then? Oops.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Name a few.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Easy_Anti-Cheat

    Took me about thirty seconds to find that list.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess you lose your sense of superiority if you actually listen to what other people say. Making others do their research for them must be the way they cling to their self-worth.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lmfao from the first name on this list I can tell you that 7 days to die is not running kernel level anti-cheat. You've illustrated you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Kernel Level anticheat requires that it runs at startup of your computer. Examples are Riot's Vanguard and nProtect's GameGuard (which Helldivers 2 uses).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    That was my first comment and all I did was share a list of games that have historically used EAC. If a game used EAC at launch then it’s pretty clear that its publishers have used EAC in their games. I made no statements about it being kernel-level or otherwise.

    That said, EAC is a kernel-level anticheat, but unlike Vanguard it doesn’t run at startup. A tool being (or not being) kernel-level is a matter of which privileges it has when it runs, not when it starts up. Starting at startup allows an anti-cheat tool to perform more diagnostics and catch cheats that might otherwise go uncaught, but it’s also more invasive and increases the attack surface of people who have it installed.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you begin your comment with "lmao" it's immediately condescending and you're unlikely to convince anyone about what you're saying.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    From my perspective, they made an outlandish statement that I vehemently disagreed with, if anything my response was more civil than usual.

    EDIT: they not you

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not even the same person you were originally responding to. Just saying, if your goal is to get ideas across it's better to be nice. If you just want to dunk on people and sink to their level, then carry on.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you disregard facts because of emotion, that's a you problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    I'm making a general statement, not really representing my opinion in this particular conversation. If you care about what you're standing up for, you should do your best to get it across to people, the perception is as much the fault of the listener as it is on the conveyor of the information and how they do it.

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