▲ 254 ▼ Multi-million dollar Cheyenne supercomputer auction ends with $480,085 bid — buyer walked away with 8,064 Intel Xeon Broadwell CPUs, 313TB DDR4-2400 ECC RAM, and some water leaks (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 2 years ago by MichaelTen@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.ml 51 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't know why anyone would buy this. Maybe it's one of those precious metal reclamation groups. Generally hardware that old is cheaper to replace with newer more efficient hardware than to even consider running due to electricity costs. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago r/homelab poster: "hey guys, check out my starter homelab! My electrical utility sends me a free thank you card every month!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Selling for parts. Techtechpotato did a rough estimate and RAM/CPUs alone are currently worth and 1M (using eBay prices). If you add all the support components (network cards, mainboards, PSUs) it might be worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago The piecemeal nature of selling thousands of parts means the wages for a group necessary to coordinate it all would probably make the whole thing not feasible. Ebay prices are higher than market prices imo. 15% ebay cut + 3% paypal fees + sales tax + shipping is brutal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago Yes and no. You can sell easily 2-3 units at the current price, but 8000 pieces... Technology is improving fast, the E5-2697 v4 has a similar benchmark to a Ryzen 5600, which uses half the power, and making a computer with desktop components is cheaper (except for used registered ECC RAM which is being dumped for cheap) And that Ryzen is the old generation, the newer are even faster permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Does the hardware being all so arranged as it is in this manner to create a supercomputer make any difference to that evaluation? Like does the work of putting all the outdated hardware together in the complex way needed to make it functional for supercomputing make it potentially cheaper than buying more modern hardware but having to build it all yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Some of those nodes are broken, it’s got coolant leaks and the processors are 8 years old. I read in another article they meant to replace it a couple years ago but couldn’t due to COVID supply chain problems (makes sense tbh). What I’m saying is, it might be “assembled” already but due to the power draw, you definitely don’t want to run something this out of date. It’s huge. Might be a logistical problem to even get enough juice for this thing. Another poster pointed out it might need its own electrical substation. IMHO it’s only worth parting out. Far too expensive to run. Those cabinets look nice though, with the Cheyanne graphic on the front. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does the hardware being all so arranged as it is in this manner to create a supercomputer make any difference to that evaluation? The storage drives for all of this have been stripped. You can't just run commands on the hardware... you have to figure out how to cluster things with software, buy drives for it all, have it all installed in a datacenter somewhere which is going to cost way more than the purchase price. The labor costs for the technical people required to do this are way more than half a million a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Didn't know they'd taken out the storage drives but I was aware despite my general ignorance that it's not turnkey ready to go. I guess what I'm wondering is, is there any part of the of the process involved in designing and building such a supercomputing cluster that is already taken care by buying it in the manner that it has been sold and could that in any way offset the increased costs of trying to bring such a cluster online rather than starting from scratch? I'm not saying it is the case, so much as wondering aloud for anyone with expertise to chime in, to see if that's a way it could make sense. I understand there's a mountain to climb to bring this thing in to a usable state for anyone, but could it maybe get you to base camp more quickly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago I'm guessing that due to the nature of this server (scientific calculations by scientists and students who sent jobs remotely, if I understood right) everything was done on RAM and then stored on SAN (separate servers) afterwards Otherwise taking out all the storage from each single blade AND putting it back nicely in the racks would have been a massive job, if they did that I would expect to have it half dismantled on the pictured permalink fedilink source parent
[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago r/homelab poster: "hey guys, check out my starter homelab! My electrical utility sends me a free thank you card every month!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Selling for parts. Techtechpotato did a rough estimate and RAM/CPUs alone are currently worth and 1M (using eBay prices). If you add all the support components (network cards, mainboards, PSUs) it might be worth it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago The piecemeal nature of selling thousands of parts means the wages for a group necessary to coordinate it all would probably make the whole thing not feasible. Ebay prices are higher than market prices imo. 15% ebay cut + 3% paypal fees + sales tax + shipping is brutal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago Yes and no. You can sell easily 2-3 units at the current price, but 8000 pieces... Technology is improving fast, the E5-2697 v4 has a similar benchmark to a Ryzen 5600, which uses half the power, and making a computer with desktop components is cheaper (except for used registered ECC RAM which is being dumped for cheap) And that Ryzen is the old generation, the newer are even faster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago The piecemeal nature of selling thousands of parts means the wages for a group necessary to coordinate it all would probably make the whole thing not feasible. Ebay prices are higher than market prices imo. 15% ebay cut + 3% paypal fees + sales tax + shipping is brutal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago Yes and no. You can sell easily 2-3 units at the current price, but 8000 pieces... Technology is improving fast, the E5-2697 v4 has a similar benchmark to a Ryzen 5600, which uses half the power, and making a computer with desktop components is cheaper (except for used registered ECC RAM which is being dumped for cheap) And that Ryzen is the old generation, the newer are even faster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Does the hardware being all so arranged as it is in this manner to create a supercomputer make any difference to that evaluation? Like does the work of putting all the outdated hardware together in the complex way needed to make it functional for supercomputing make it potentially cheaper than buying more modern hardware but having to build it all yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Some of those nodes are broken, it’s got coolant leaks and the processors are 8 years old. I read in another article they meant to replace it a couple years ago but couldn’t due to COVID supply chain problems (makes sense tbh). What I’m saying is, it might be “assembled” already but due to the power draw, you definitely don’t want to run something this out of date. It’s huge. Might be a logistical problem to even get enough juice for this thing. Another poster pointed out it might need its own electrical substation. IMHO it’s only worth parting out. Far too expensive to run. Those cabinets look nice though, with the Cheyanne graphic on the front. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does the hardware being all so arranged as it is in this manner to create a supercomputer make any difference to that evaluation? The storage drives for all of this have been stripped. You can't just run commands on the hardware... you have to figure out how to cluster things with software, buy drives for it all, have it all installed in a datacenter somewhere which is going to cost way more than the purchase price. The labor costs for the technical people required to do this are way more than half a million a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Didn't know they'd taken out the storage drives but I was aware despite my general ignorance that it's not turnkey ready to go. I guess what I'm wondering is, is there any part of the of the process involved in designing and building such a supercomputing cluster that is already taken care by buying it in the manner that it has been sold and could that in any way offset the increased costs of trying to bring such a cluster online rather than starting from scratch? I'm not saying it is the case, so much as wondering aloud for anyone with expertise to chime in, to see if that's a way it could make sense. I understand there's a mountain to climb to bring this thing in to a usable state for anyone, but could it maybe get you to base camp more quickly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago I'm guessing that due to the nature of this server (scientific calculations by scientists and students who sent jobs remotely, if I understood right) everything was done on RAM and then stored on SAN (separate servers) afterwards Otherwise taking out all the storage from each single blade AND putting it back nicely in the racks would have been a massive job, if they did that I would expect to have it half dismantled on the pictured permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago Some of those nodes are broken, it’s got coolant leaks and the processors are 8 years old. I read in another article they meant to replace it a couple years ago but couldn’t due to COVID supply chain problems (makes sense tbh). What I’m saying is, it might be “assembled” already but due to the power draw, you definitely don’t want to run something this out of date. It’s huge. Might be a logistical problem to even get enough juice for this thing. Another poster pointed out it might need its own electrical substation. IMHO it’s only worth parting out. Far too expensive to run. Those cabinets look nice though, with the Cheyanne graphic on the front. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Does the hardware being all so arranged as it is in this manner to create a supercomputer make any difference to that evaluation? The storage drives for all of this have been stripped. You can't just run commands on the hardware... you have to figure out how to cluster things with software, buy drives for it all, have it all installed in a datacenter somewhere which is going to cost way more than the purchase price. The labor costs for the technical people required to do this are way more than half a million a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Didn't know they'd taken out the storage drives but I was aware despite my general ignorance that it's not turnkey ready to go. I guess what I'm wondering is, is there any part of the of the process involved in designing and building such a supercomputing cluster that is already taken care by buying it in the manner that it has been sold and could that in any way offset the increased costs of trying to bring such a cluster online rather than starting from scratch? I'm not saying it is the case, so much as wondering aloud for anyone with expertise to chime in, to see if that's a way it could make sense. I understand there's a mountain to climb to bring this thing in to a usable state for anyone, but could it maybe get you to base camp more quickly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago I'm guessing that due to the nature of this server (scientific calculations by scientists and students who sent jobs remotely, if I understood right) everything was done on RAM and then stored on SAN (separate servers) afterwards Otherwise taking out all the storage from each single blade AND putting it back nicely in the racks would have been a massive job, if they did that I would expect to have it half dismantled on the pictured permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Didn't know they'd taken out the storage drives but I was aware despite my general ignorance that it's not turnkey ready to go. I guess what I'm wondering is, is there any part of the of the process involved in designing and building such a supercomputing cluster that is already taken care by buying it in the manner that it has been sold and could that in any way offset the increased costs of trying to bring such a cluster online rather than starting from scratch? I'm not saying it is the case, so much as wondering aloud for anyone with expertise to chime in, to see if that's a way it could make sense. I understand there's a mountain to climb to bring this thing in to a usable state for anyone, but could it maybe get you to base camp more quickly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago I'm guessing that due to the nature of this server (scientific calculations by scientists and students who sent jobs remotely, if I understood right) everything was done on RAM and then stored on SAN (separate servers) afterwards Otherwise taking out all the storage from each single blade AND putting it back nicely in the racks would have been a massive job, if they did that I would expect to have it half dismantled on the pictured permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 2 years ago I'm guessing that due to the nature of this server (scientific calculations by scientists and students who sent jobs remotely, if I understood right) everything was done on RAM and then stored on SAN (separate servers) afterwards Otherwise taking out all the storage from each single blade AND putting it back nicely in the racks would have been a massive job, if they did that I would expect to have it half dismantled on the pictured permalink fedilink source parent