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Systemd wants to expand to include a sudo replacement (outpost.fosspost.org)
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[–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

mesa and linux is also "uber projects" i think in certains canes you can't run away from them, systemd is the same, but for privilegiated processes that need to be well integrated for security reasons

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    While I agree that sometimes Uber projects happen, for efficiency or security reasons, I don't think that Mesa is a good example as they have a scope (implement the OpenGL/Vulkan API) and stick to it.

    Systemd is already confusing because of it referencing two different projects, and the overarching systemd projects scope just increases on a regular basis without what appears to external observers as a plan.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away. I am using PCLinuxOS hence am systemd free. Stopped reading up on it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away.

    Yes, unreadable with a text editor. Meaning that if you have a computer problem and journald or systemd is broken you have can't consult the log files, unless you did install rsyslog or sometimes before that. Meanwhile by default journald will eat a few GBs of disk space soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Compared to this what is the advantage of binary form? I thought log files being text was a no brainer.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "on nooo i'm gonna stop using what make modern linux OS good just because they save logs in binary, istead of binary w ith .txt 😭😭" go ahead them, make your life worse

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    “on nooo i’m gonna stop using what make modern linux OS good just because they save logs in binary, istead of binary w ith .txt 😭😭” go ahead them, make your life worse

    😒

    One can keep on using systemd and complain about journald and install rsyslogd and then you'd have the journalctl -f command to impress your Linux noob friends ;-) and /var/log/syslog when there's trouble when journald would be dead.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    if you can't access journald you have a bigger problem than crying about it's binary file format, but ok keep needing to parse every fucking log using grep and taking 30 second to find anything meaningful if you hate yourself that much

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