▲ 141 ▼ NixOS forked (aux.computer) submitted 2 years ago by lemmyreader@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml 69 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://hachyderm.io/@jakehamilton/112355361353931366
[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not very clear to me that this is any more valuable than OG NixOS. This sounds a lot like the forgejo vs gitea fork. I love the forgejo people but I am yet to see a sufficient differentiator. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/ I dunno, some of these are a pretty big deal, in particular: Gitea repeatedly makes choices that leave Gitea admins exposed to known vulnerabilities during extended periods of time. For instance Gitea spent resources to undergo a SOC2 security audit for its SaaS offering while critical vulnerabilities demanded a new release. Advance notice of security releases is for customers only. Gitea is developed on github, whereas forgejo is developed on and by codeberg, who use it as their main forge (also mentioned on that page). Someone dogfooding gives me more confidence in the software. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* Tbf most of gitea is hosted on gitea: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029 Just not the main repo because of a blocking issue (which makes the above link pretty annoying) permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the reason is because apparently a lot of people are unhappy with a deal Nix inked apparently with a company that does business with the US' Immigrations and Customs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cybersandwich@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Don't really know, hit something about it elsewhere, but it didn't say anything more than that, but yeah, that seems to be the gist of things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) They were still pulling in mainline Gitea changes while introducing their own stuff last I checked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Pulling in mainline gitea changes, I did see. But I didn't see any notable differences from gitea. Do you know of any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forgejo is working on federation. That is the big item. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* Nothing concrete from what I can tell. Becoming a hard fork is relatively recent though (mid-November of last year, roughly). As a side note, I understand why Gitea and Forgejo went for a "copy GitHub Actions" approach to their CI, but man do I wish more self-hosted repo software tried to copy Drone/Woodpecker instead. Iterative containers in the pipeline is such a smoother build experience, and it kind of sucks that Gitness is the only one doing it (that I know of). permalink fedilink source parent [–] algernon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago There's plenty, but I do not wish to hijack this thread, so... have a look at the Forgejo 7.0 release notes, the PRs it links to along notable features (and a boatload of bugfixes, many of which aren't in Gitea). Then compare when (and if) similar features or fixes were implemented in Gitea. The major difference (apart from governance, and on a technical level) between Gitea and Forgejo is that Forgejo cherry picks from Gitea weekly (being a hard fork doesn't mean all ties are severed, it means that development happens independently). Gitea does not cherry pick from Forgejo. They could, the license permits it, and it even permits sublicensing, so it's not an obstacle for Gitea Cloud or Gitea EE, either. They just don't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuperFola@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Last time I checked they were working on forgejo runners / actions! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/ I dunno, some of these are a pretty big deal, in particular: Gitea repeatedly makes choices that leave Gitea admins exposed to known vulnerabilities during extended periods of time. For instance Gitea spent resources to undergo a SOC2 security audit for its SaaS offering while critical vulnerabilities demanded a new release. Advance notice of security releases is for customers only. Gitea is developed on github, whereas forgejo is developed on and by codeberg, who use it as their main forge (also mentioned on that page). Someone dogfooding gives me more confidence in the software. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* Tbf most of gitea is hosted on gitea: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029 Just not the main repo because of a blocking issue (which makes the above link pretty annoying) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* Tbf most of gitea is hosted on gitea: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029 Just not the main repo because of a blocking issue (which makes the above link pretty annoying) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the reason is because apparently a lot of people are unhappy with a deal Nix inked apparently with a company that does business with the US' Immigrations and Customs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cybersandwich@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Don't really know, hit something about it elsewhere, but it didn't say anything more than that, but yeah, that seems to be the gist of things. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cybersandwich@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Don't really know, hit something about it elsewhere, but it didn't say anything more than that, but yeah, that seems to be the gist of things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrPhibb@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago Don't really know, hit something about it elsewhere, but it didn't say anything more than that, but yeah, that seems to be the gist of things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) They were still pulling in mainline Gitea changes while introducing their own stuff last I checked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Pulling in mainline gitea changes, I did see. But I didn't see any notable differences from gitea. Do you know of any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forgejo is working on federation. That is the big item. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* Nothing concrete from what I can tell. Becoming a hard fork is relatively recent though (mid-November of last year, roughly). As a side note, I understand why Gitea and Forgejo went for a "copy GitHub Actions" approach to their CI, but man do I wish more self-hosted repo software tried to copy Drone/Woodpecker instead. Iterative containers in the pipeline is such a smoother build experience, and it kind of sucks that Gitness is the only one doing it (that I know of). permalink fedilink source parent [–] algernon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago There's plenty, but I do not wish to hijack this thread, so... have a look at the Forgejo 7.0 release notes, the PRs it links to along notable features (and a boatload of bugfixes, many of which aren't in Gitea). Then compare when (and if) similar features or fixes were implemented in Gitea. The major difference (apart from governance, and on a technical level) between Gitea and Forgejo is that Forgejo cherry picks from Gitea weekly (being a hard fork doesn't mean all ties are severed, it means that development happens independently). Gitea does not cherry pick from Forgejo. They could, the license permits it, and it even permits sublicensing, so it's not an obstacle for Gitea Cloud or Gitea EE, either. They just don't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuperFola@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Last time I checked they were working on forgejo runners / actions! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) Pulling in mainline gitea changes, I did see. But I didn't see any notable differences from gitea. Do you know of any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forgejo is working on federation. That is the big item. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator. permalink fedilink source parent [–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* Nothing concrete from what I can tell. Becoming a hard fork is relatively recent though (mid-November of last year, roughly). As a side note, I understand why Gitea and Forgejo went for a "copy GitHub Actions" approach to their CI, but man do I wish more self-hosted repo software tried to copy Drone/Woodpecker instead. Iterative containers in the pipeline is such a smoother build experience, and it kind of sucks that Gitness is the only one doing it (that I know of). permalink fedilink source parent [–] algernon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago There's plenty, but I do not wish to hijack this thread, so... have a look at the Forgejo 7.0 release notes, the PRs it links to along notable features (and a boatload of bugfixes, many of which aren't in Gitea). Then compare when (and if) similar features or fixes were implemented in Gitea. The major difference (apart from governance, and on a technical level) between Gitea and Forgejo is that Forgejo cherry picks from Gitea weekly (being a hard fork doesn't mean all ties are severed, it means that development happens independently). Gitea does not cherry pick from Forgejo. They could, the license permits it, and it even permits sublicensing, so it's not an obstacle for Gitea Cloud or Gitea EE, either. They just don't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SuperFola@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Last time I checked they were working on forgejo runners / actions! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forgejo is working on federation. That is the big item. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] micka190@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* Nothing concrete from what I can tell. Becoming a hard fork is relatively recent though (mid-November of last year, roughly). As a side note, I understand why Gitea and Forgejo went for a "copy GitHub Actions" approach to their CI, but man do I wish more self-hosted repo software tried to copy Drone/Woodpecker instead. Iterative containers in the pipeline is such a smoother build experience, and it kind of sucks that Gitness is the only one doing it (that I know of). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] algernon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago There's plenty, but I do not wish to hijack this thread, so... have a look at the Forgejo 7.0 release notes, the PRs it links to along notable features (and a boatload of bugfixes, many of which aren't in Gitea). Then compare when (and if) similar features or fixes were implemented in Gitea. The major difference (apart from governance, and on a technical level) between Gitea and Forgejo is that Forgejo cherry picks from Gitea weekly (being a hard fork doesn't mean all ties are severed, it means that development happens independently). Gitea does not cherry pick from Forgejo. They could, the license permits it, and it even permits sublicensing, so it's not an obstacle for Gitea Cloud or Gitea EE, either. They just don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperFola@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Last time I checked they were working on forgejo runners / actions! permalink fedilink source parent