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Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.' (www.livemint.com)
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Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'::Tesla CEO Elon Musk's ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

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[–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Their engineers and designers did the work. He was the money. At most he stirred up some attention.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Also, side note, why do these points always mention the engineers and designers doing the actual work, and almost never the assembly workers for example?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because electric cars were a relatively new concept that needed to be designed and prototyped. That’s a job done by engineers. Factory workers don’t really come in until mass production, after the engineering is done.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Okay, but my point was about changing people’s minds about it being cool and a product you’d want to own. Tesla’s strategy was to make a sports car (the first Roadster) to show that electric cars could compete with combustion engine cars and to make people want one.

    The engineers who solved the challenges needed to achieve that didn’t come up with that vision - that came from the top. Of course, that was because those guys had the money and could therefore dictate the direction, but if they wouldn’t have made that choice electric cars would most likely be mass adopted quite a few years later. That’s what I’m talking about, and that’s why “engineers did the engineering work” isn’t an argument against my point.

    Also, let’s be real; even now people talk about the engineers and designers being the driving force behind Tesla.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Divide and conquer by the rich. Pit white collar workers against blue collar workers so they don't collectively rise up against the real exploiters. White collar workers are told right from the start of university that they're on a better path and are better people than those bottom tier laborer serfs and that general attitude gets normalized even if you don't actually believe you're better, and it comes out without even explicitly intending to, which is precisely the point.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    The engineers and designers were not the people who changed the perception of electric cars - which was needed to got us to where we are now. Both the actual founders and Musk were instrumental in pushing this.

    At most he stirred up some attention

    Which was definitely needed, and which he does deserve credit for. He’s still a piece of shit regardless, but that doesn’t mean we should overlook and/or dismiss the part he actually did play.

    Like yeah, you’re right about engineers and designers doing the actual engineering and designing work, but it’s a generic (though correct) dunk on Musk that has little to do with the point I’m making.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    But that's like saying the engineers at Apple did all the work. But it would not have grabbed the zeitgeist without Jobs. And as much as I despise Musk you do need to give him credit for how he marketed Tesla and SpaceX. As the now is showing he was just making stuff up and lucked into some good decisions, but the accomplishment stands.

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