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Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Tesla's autopilot isn't the best around. It's just the most deployed and advertised. People creating autopilot responsibly don't beta test them with the kind of idiots that think Tesla autopilot is the best approach.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    If Tesla's self-driving isn't the best one around then which one is? I'm not aware of any other system capable of doing what FSD does. Manufacturers like Mercedes may have more trust in their system because it only works on a limited number of hand-picked roads and under ideal conditions. I still wouldn't say that what essentially is a train is better system for getting around than a car with full freedom to take you anywhere.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    All throughout these comments, you seem deeply, deeply confused. Let's go over this sloooowly.

    Mercedes has two autonomous systems. Let's call them MB FSD and MB Autodrive.

    MB FSD has similar features to Tesla's. It isn't geo-restricted. You have to pay attention, just like Tesla. It isn't true autonomous driving, just like Tesla. If you have an accident, you are responsible, just like Tesla.

    MB Autodrive is another feature set. It is L3 autonomy, which means it is limited geographically and the driver should be available to take over when prompted. It also means that the driving is completely autonomous. The driver can be reading, playing on their phone, or simply laying there with their eyes closed. Mercedes will even take legal and financial responsibility for any accidents that happen on their system.

    So, to summarize:

    FSD -type systems: Mercedes and Tesla (and many other car makers)

    Level 3: not Tesla, Mercedes

    True autonomous driving is when the manufacturer takes responsibility for the car's actions. Anything else is assisted driving. Until Tesla takes responsibility for accidents, you can't consider them to have certified autonomous driving.

    Is that any clearer to you? After seeing some of your other shilling for Tesla in other posts, maybe there is a reason you don't want to recognize the advantages of other systems?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Absolutely correct. It’s so disheartening how many guys like him out there are hurting us all with their admiration for con-men like Trump and Musk and absolute inability to fact check

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    It’s level 2 automation, a lot of other makers have that. You need to look past the juicy marketing language, there’s standards and norms which Tesla cannot go beyond because then it’ll be illegal to drive the cars on public roads.

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