▲ 194 ▼ Opinion: GNOME vs. macOS user experience (www.youtube.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.ml 213 comments fedilink hide all child comments Spoiler: GNOME wins Btw their GNOME Theme manager is here
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children) Can you change these colored circles to symbols? Red/green are horrible, I can mostly not differetiate them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Somehow I never considered that, MacOS' stupid stoplight buttons aren't particularly accessible, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago No they arent permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0f@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) they change to symbols when hovering, i don't think they have a a11y setting for them :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago Wow apple, great job! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can change them to grey circles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope this is a joke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a nice aesthetic choice in macos. They got rid of the icons, I always thought the order was clear. It's like a car clutch closes the engine from the wheels, brake slows the car (minimise) and accelerator maximises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the windows layout makes more sense, also used on Android, ChromeOS, KDE, LXQt, XFCE, Budgie, Mate, Ubuntu GNOME, Cosmic-Epoch, ... And still every one of them still has the symbols displayed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you red-green colorblind? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago* Yes. Pretty common among men, a trait from their mothers as it lies on the X chromosome. Most women dont have it, as they have a healthy one and it is recessive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I work with industrial human machine interfaces, used to operate heavy machinery. The prevalence of some form of colorblindness in the male population is around 15-17%, and most heavy machine operators are men. It’s enough of a safety issue that standards call for at least 2 ways of communicating alarms - most commonly shapes and colors, in many cases text is also used. The use of colors to indicate status (pump running, valve closed, etc) is also limited to colors with a distinct luminance value so that even people with full colorblindness can operate them easily. In the past, many HMIs were made in which green meant running, red stopped, yellow alarm… let’s just say a lot of people had to be maimed and killed before the standard was issued. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why don’t you just use key commands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, a keyboard-driven tiling wm does seem like a better idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Most OSs have an app for it, if it’s not already built in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Somehow I never considered that, MacOS' stupid stoplight buttons aren't particularly accessible, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago No they arent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0f@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) they change to symbols when hovering, i don't think they have a a11y setting for them :/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago Wow apple, great job! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 4 points 2 years ago Wow apple, great job! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can change them to grey circles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope this is a joke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a nice aesthetic choice in macos. They got rid of the icons, I always thought the order was clear. It's like a car clutch closes the engine from the wheels, brake slows the car (minimise) and accelerator maximises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the windows layout makes more sense, also used on Android, ChromeOS, KDE, LXQt, XFCE, Budgie, Mate, Ubuntu GNOME, Cosmic-Epoch, ... And still every one of them still has the symbols displayed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hope this is a joke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a nice aesthetic choice in macos. They got rid of the icons, I always thought the order was clear. It's like a car clutch closes the engine from the wheels, brake slows the car (minimise) and accelerator maximises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the windows layout makes more sense, also used on Android, ChromeOS, KDE, LXQt, XFCE, Budgie, Mate, Ubuntu GNOME, Cosmic-Epoch, ... And still every one of them still has the symbols displayed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a nice aesthetic choice in macos. They got rid of the icons, I always thought the order was clear. It's like a car clutch closes the engine from the wheels, brake slows the car (minimise) and accelerator maximises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the windows layout makes more sense, also used on Android, ChromeOS, KDE, LXQt, XFCE, Budgie, Mate, Ubuntu GNOME, Cosmic-Epoch, ... And still every one of them still has the symbols displayed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the windows layout makes more sense, also used on Android, ChromeOS, KDE, LXQt, XFCE, Budgie, Mate, Ubuntu GNOME, Cosmic-Epoch, ... And still every one of them still has the symbols displayed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meliante@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Doesn't gnome only have close? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago Yes but you can add all buttons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Are you red-green colorblind? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago* Yes. Pretty common among men, a trait from their mothers as it lies on the X chromosome. Most women dont have it, as they have a healthy one and it is recessive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I work with industrial human machine interfaces, used to operate heavy machinery. The prevalence of some form of colorblindness in the male population is around 15-17%, and most heavy machine operators are men. It’s enough of a safety issue that standards call for at least 2 ways of communicating alarms - most commonly shapes and colors, in many cases text is also used. The use of colors to indicate status (pump running, valve closed, etc) is also limited to colors with a distinct luminance value so that even people with full colorblindness can operate them easily. In the past, many HMIs were made in which green meant running, red stopped, yellow alarm… let’s just say a lot of people had to be maimed and killed before the standard was issued. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net [S] 6 points 2 years ago* Yes. Pretty common among men, a trait from their mothers as it lies on the X chromosome. Most women dont have it, as they have a healthy one and it is recessive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I work with industrial human machine interfaces, used to operate heavy machinery. The prevalence of some form of colorblindness in the male population is around 15-17%, and most heavy machine operators are men. It’s enough of a safety issue that standards call for at least 2 ways of communicating alarms - most commonly shapes and colors, in many cases text is also used. The use of colors to indicate status (pump running, valve closed, etc) is also limited to colors with a distinct luminance value so that even people with full colorblindness can operate them easily. In the past, many HMIs were made in which green meant running, red stopped, yellow alarm… let’s just say a lot of people had to be maimed and killed before the standard was issued. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why don’t you just use key commands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, a keyboard-driven tiling wm does seem like a better idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Most OSs have an app for it, if it’s not already built in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, a keyboard-driven tiling wm does seem like a better idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Most OSs have an app for it, if it’s not already built in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Most OSs have an app for it, if it’s not already built in. permalink fedilink source parent