▲ 697 ▼ Please stop following in Apple's footsteps (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by dog_@lemmy.world to c/googlepixel@lemmy.world 266 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671 What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?
[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 28 points 2 years ago (4 children) Maybe I'm out of the loop but are eSIMs insecure or something? What's the problem? I started using eSIMs while traveling overseas and it been a game changer. So easy... No more swapping. No more trying to find a Sim provider at the airport etc. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children) AFAIK esim is not available everywhere and it's also less private since you need to register an account to activate rather than pay cash and pop in the card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago Yes eSIM adoption is low, but half the world requires you to register either way. The main concern is the friction (sometimes inability) with swapping eSIM's between phones. They are great and convenient but they should never be the only option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kelteseth@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the eu you have to register your regular sim card with your full personal information. So for us nothing would change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) South Africa too. We call it RICA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Iirc the US also started requiring it, too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) What I like about physical Sims is I can easily swap it between different devices without need to login into a website or app to transfer it over. Is esim that convient when it comes to swapping the same sim between different devices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* Stringer Bell over here with your SIM card shenanigans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) i’d say it’s a toss up really: personally i’d prefer logging into an account rather than having to find/carry something to pop open the sim tray, but i can see why some people would prefer that option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you're someone who needs to swap SIM cards just keep the tool between the phone's backside and its case. If you don't have a case on your phone then... The fuck you doing playing with fire like that bruh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don't want the feds to catch up with you, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep it on my keys. You need those to get into your house/apartment/vehicle anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that’s very fair! i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago Understandable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skelectrician@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd say it's pretty handy if you don't have an ejector pin on you. Don't have to take the phone out of the case either permalink fedilink source parent [–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are a privacy problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are those privacy problems? I guess there's the fact that you cannot anonymously purchase an eSIM. Anything else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a big one. It introduces a privacy concern that traditional SIMs dont have, and if all phones use eSIM, there will be no alternative. As with many things tech, it's a slippery slope, and short-term convenience leads to long-term detriment. But if you don't care about privacy, then yes, enjoy the convenience of an eSIM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) doesn't most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dub@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago is there much privacy in attaching your main phone to a new sim? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Agreed, except that it can still be more difficult to get an eSIM than a physical SIM in some parts of the world. It depends on where you are traveling. That probably won't be an issue in the next couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children) AFAIK esim is not available everywhere and it's also less private since you need to register an account to activate rather than pay cash and pop in the card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago Yes eSIM adoption is low, but half the world requires you to register either way. The main concern is the friction (sometimes inability) with swapping eSIM's between phones. They are great and convenient but they should never be the only option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kelteseth@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the eu you have to register your regular sim card with your full personal information. So for us nothing would change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) South Africa too. We call it RICA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Iirc the US also started requiring it, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago Yes eSIM adoption is low, but half the world requires you to register either way. The main concern is the friction (sometimes inability) with swapping eSIM's between phones. They are great and convenient but they should never be the only option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kelteseth@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the eu you have to register your regular sim card with your full personal information. So for us nothing would change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) South Africa too. We call it RICA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Iirc the US also started requiring it, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) South Africa too. We call it RICA permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Iirc the US also started requiring it, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Iirc the US also started requiring it, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) What I like about physical Sims is I can easily swap it between different devices without need to login into a website or app to transfer it over. Is esim that convient when it comes to swapping the same sim between different devices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* Stringer Bell over here with your SIM card shenanigans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) i’d say it’s a toss up really: personally i’d prefer logging into an account rather than having to find/carry something to pop open the sim tray, but i can see why some people would prefer that option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you're someone who needs to swap SIM cards just keep the tool between the phone's backside and its case. If you don't have a case on your phone then... The fuck you doing playing with fire like that bruh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don't want the feds to catch up with you, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep it on my keys. You need those to get into your house/apartment/vehicle anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that’s very fair! i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago Understandable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skelectrician@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd say it's pretty handy if you don't have an ejector pin on you. Don't have to take the phone out of the case either permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* Stringer Bell over here with your SIM card shenanigans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) i’d say it’s a toss up really: personally i’d prefer logging into an account rather than having to find/carry something to pop open the sim tray, but i can see why some people would prefer that option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you're someone who needs to swap SIM cards just keep the tool between the phone's backside and its case. If you don't have a case on your phone then... The fuck you doing playing with fire like that bruh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don't want the feds to catch up with you, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep it on my keys. You need those to get into your house/apartment/vehicle anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that’s very fair! i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago Understandable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you're someone who needs to swap SIM cards just keep the tool between the phone's backside and its case. If you don't have a case on your phone then... The fuck you doing playing with fire like that bruh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don't want the feds to catch up with you, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don't want the feds to catch up with you, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn't be surprised if and of them only use burner phones... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I keep it on my keys. You need those to get into your house/apartment/vehicle anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that’s very fair! i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago Understandable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) that’s very fair! i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dog_@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 2 years ago Understandable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skelectrician@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago I'd say it's pretty handy if you don't have an ejector pin on you. Don't have to take the phone out of the case either permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are a privacy problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are those privacy problems? I guess there's the fact that you cannot anonymously purchase an eSIM. Anything else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a big one. It introduces a privacy concern that traditional SIMs dont have, and if all phones use eSIM, there will be no alternative. As with many things tech, it's a slippery slope, and short-term convenience leads to long-term detriment. But if you don't care about privacy, then yes, enjoy the convenience of an eSIM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) doesn't most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dub@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago is there much privacy in attaching your main phone to a new sim? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are those privacy problems? I guess there's the fact that you cannot anonymously purchase an eSIM. Anything else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a big one. It introduces a privacy concern that traditional SIMs dont have, and if all phones use eSIM, there will be no alternative. As with many things tech, it's a slippery slope, and short-term convenience leads to long-term detriment. But if you don't care about privacy, then yes, enjoy the convenience of an eSIM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) doesn't most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's a big one. It introduces a privacy concern that traditional SIMs dont have, and if all phones use eSIM, there will be no alternative. As with many things tech, it's a slippery slope, and short-term convenience leads to long-term detriment. But if you don't care about privacy, then yes, enjoy the convenience of an eSIM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) doesn't most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) doesn't most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dub@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago is there much privacy in attaching your main phone to a new sim? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Agreed, except that it can still be more difficult to get an eSIM than a physical SIM in some parts of the world. It depends on where you are traveling. That probably won't be an issue in the next couple of years. permalink fedilink source parent
