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[+] Woht24@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Jamil@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago (1 child) The same way the average American contributed to black oppression. By being silent observers to your government's actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) In the same way we all do. Those weapons can't be built without a reliable economy. Interruptions in labor produce ripple effects which disrupt the atrocities of the capitalist class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thejynxed@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except these morons protest everywhere except where the weapons are made and shipped from. Curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well yeah people tend to get shot when they protest around military bases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago yea that definitely happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It is easy to condemn obvious wrongdoers, but what about the supporting cast of complicitors: business partners, employees, investors, news organizations, and others? Whether we’re aware of it or not, almost all of us have been complicit in the unethical behavior of others and have not always used ethical decision-making skills. Complicit: How We Enable the Unethical and How to Stop permalink fedilink source parent [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) With a portion of their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially the church. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Those protestors should have already stopped paying taxes if that mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Feel free to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago It's like they're not even trying permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That assumes they have employment. Not an assumption I would make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Fair point permalink fedilink source parent [+] juicy@lemmy.today -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well, many of them voted for Biden and plan to do it again, for one thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) As opposed to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eskimofry@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) "None of the Above" which... like it or not is a vote against genocide.. not FOR Trump. It's not the voting populations' fault that the judiciary is dragging it's legs punishing Trump. Americans have ruined their country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration. permalink fedilink source parent [+] juicy@lemmy.today -18 points 2 years ago (4 children) Voting for one of the three candidates who don't support genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) three Come again now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I agree. Most definitely working for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am voting for Biden. I sure as heck am not voting for the other guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I sure as heck am not voting for genocide. Fortunately, I have options: Stein, West, De La Cruz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jamil@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago (1 child) The same way the average American contributed to black oppression. By being silent observers to your government's actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) In the same way we all do. Those weapons can't be built without a reliable economy. Interruptions in labor produce ripple effects which disrupt the atrocities of the capitalist class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thejynxed@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except these morons protest everywhere except where the weapons are made and shipped from. Curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well yeah people tend to get shot when they protest around military bases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago yea that definitely happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thejynxed@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except these morons protest everywhere except where the weapons are made and shipped from. Curious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well yeah people tend to get shot when they protest around military bases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago yea that definitely happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well yeah people tend to get shot when they protest around military bases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago yea that definitely happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago yea that definitely happens all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woht24@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It is easy to condemn obvious wrongdoers, but what about the supporting cast of complicitors: business partners, employees, investors, news organizations, and others? Whether we’re aware of it or not, almost all of us have been complicit in the unethical behavior of others and have not always used ethical decision-making skills. Complicit: How We Enable the Unethical and How to Stop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) With a portion of their taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially the church. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Those protestors should have already stopped paying taxes if that mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Feel free to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago It's like they're not even trying permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That assumes they have employment. Not an assumption I would make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Fair point permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially the church. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Especially the church. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Because the church tries to collect them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Those protestors should have already stopped paying taxes if that mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Feel free to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago It's like they're not even trying permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That assumes they have employment. Not an assumption I would make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Fair point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Feel free to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago It's like they're not even trying permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago It's like they're not even trying permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That assumes they have employment. Not an assumption I would make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Please_RTFA@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago Fair point permalink fedilink source parent
[+] juicy@lemmy.today -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well, many of them voted for Biden and plan to do it again, for one thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) As opposed to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eskimofry@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) "None of the Above" which... like it or not is a vote against genocide.. not FOR Trump. It's not the voting populations' fault that the judiciary is dragging it's legs punishing Trump. Americans have ruined their country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration. permalink fedilink source parent [+] juicy@lemmy.today -18 points 2 years ago (4 children) Voting for one of the three candidates who don't support genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) three Come again now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I agree. Most definitely working for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am voting for Biden. I sure as heck am not voting for the other guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I sure as heck am not voting for genocide. Fortunately, I have options: Stein, West, De La Cruz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) As opposed to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eskimofry@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) "None of the Above" which... like it or not is a vote against genocide.. not FOR Trump. It's not the voting populations' fault that the judiciary is dragging it's legs punishing Trump. Americans have ruined their country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration. permalink fedilink source parent [+] juicy@lemmy.today -18 points 2 years ago (4 children) Voting for one of the three candidates who don't support genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) three Come again now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I agree. Most definitely working for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] eskimofry@lemm.ee -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) "None of the Above" which... like it or not is a vote against genocide.. not FOR Trump. It's not the voting populations' fault that the judiciary is dragging it's legs punishing Trump. Americans have ruined their country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] juicy@lemmy.today -18 points 2 years ago (4 children) Voting for one of the three candidates who don't support genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) three Come again now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I agree. Most definitely working for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) three Come again now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] juicy@lemmy.today -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Stein, West, De La Cruz permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse: 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists 40% vote for fascists 60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy. You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray -- UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I’ll let Carsie Blanton speak for me: https://lemmy.world/post/14412912 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent
[–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I agree. Most definitely working for Russia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I am voting for Biden. I sure as heck am not voting for the other guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I sure as heck am not voting for genocide. Fortunately, I have options: Stein, West, De La Cruz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] juicy@lemmy.today -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I sure as heck am not voting for genocide. Fortunately, I have options: Stein, West, De La Cruz. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ellecram@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] juicy@lemmy.today -1 points 2 years ago If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office. permalink fedilink source parent