▲ 343 ▼ Green Party candidate Cornel West owes more than half a million dollars in taxes and child support: Records (abcnews.go.com) submitted 3 years ago by TokenBoomer@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 244 comments fedilink hide all child comments ABCnews
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) the votes they win are votes that would likely otherwise go to Democratic candidates citation needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Here's a source for you. Note that People's World is a socialist new organization. From the article, "The GOP has a long history of using the Green Party as a tool to siphon votes that might go to Democrats and of playing a spoiler role in our two-party, winner-take-all electoral system. And the Green Party leadership has opportunistically embraced the support, playing the role of what some describe as 'useful idiots.' [...] In 2016, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein garnered 30,000 votes in Wisconsin; Trump won the state by 23,000 votes." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There's an entirely other way of reading that data, which is to say that Hillary could have picked up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin if she had been a better candidate and run a better campaign. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I was asked for a source, I provided one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) this does not prove that i would have voted for hilary clinton in 2016. because i wouldn't have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I didn't either--I voted Green--but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn't like her then, I don't like her now, but if I'd lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump. I disagree with Clinton's politics. I disagree with Trump's existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn't want him to win. i also didn't want clinton to win. that's why i didn't vote for either of them. jill stein wasn't a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i disagree with both their politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) Here's a source for you. Note that People's World is a socialist new organization. From the article, "The GOP has a long history of using the Green Party as a tool to siphon votes that might go to Democrats and of playing a spoiler role in our two-party, winner-take-all electoral system. And the Green Party leadership has opportunistically embraced the support, playing the role of what some describe as 'useful idiots.' [...] In 2016, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein garnered 30,000 votes in Wisconsin; Trump won the state by 23,000 votes." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There's an entirely other way of reading that data, which is to say that Hillary could have picked up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin if she had been a better candidate and run a better campaign. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I was asked for a source, I provided one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) this does not prove that i would have voted for hilary clinton in 2016. because i wouldn't have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I didn't either--I voted Green--but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn't like her then, I don't like her now, but if I'd lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump. I disagree with Clinton's politics. I disagree with Trump's existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn't want him to win. i also didn't want clinton to win. that's why i didn't vote for either of them. jill stein wasn't a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i disagree with both their politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) There's an entirely other way of reading that data, which is to say that Hillary could have picked up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin if she had been a better candidate and run a better campaign. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I was asked for a source, I provided one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago I was asked for a source, I provided one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) this does not prove that i would have voted for hilary clinton in 2016. because i wouldn't have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I didn't either--I voted Green--but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn't like her then, I don't like her now, but if I'd lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump. I disagree with Clinton's politics. I disagree with Trump's existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn't want him to win. i also didn't want clinton to win. that's why i didn't vote for either of them. jill stein wasn't a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i disagree with both their politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) I didn't either--I voted Green--but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn't like her then, I don't like her now, but if I'd lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump. I disagree with Clinton's politics. I disagree with Trump's existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn't want him to win. i also didn't want clinton to win. that's why i didn't vote for either of them. jill stein wasn't a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win. permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i disagree with both their politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn't want him to win. i also didn't want clinton to win. that's why i didn't vote for either of them. jill stein wasn't a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago i disagree with both their politics. permalink fedilink source parent