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Russia-Ukraine war latest: Putin 'may launch all-out bid to seize second city' - as Western officials fear major Russian advance (news.sky.com)
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[+] -108 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If I was in Ukraine, I'd get out.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You mean just like how all the Jews of Europe just "got out" as the Nazis rolled over country after country?

    Because that sort of thing is so easy...

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How is that relevant?

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    What was vague about my analogy? I'm pretty sure showing that people generally can't just up and leave a country en masse even if they'll die if they remain by giving an example of that during a similarly dire time is the opposite of vague.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    The nazis argued that the Czechs did, just like you are arguing the Ukrainians did. Every argument you make for this war on Russia's side is an argument the nazis made for themselves. This I haven't seen anyone provide me anything else. Only ban me from ml's news for "trivializing nazism". Ironic because denying the nature of nazi foreign policy does a lot to trivialize it.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    If you are a man you are not allowed to leave. There are people who will promise to smuggle you out for many tens of thousands of dollars, but there's no guarantee they will succeed at doing it, or even seriously try.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    I’m curious how you’d phrase it, there is a law in Ukraine and it is widely reported to apply to “men aged 18 to 60”. What phrasing would more accurately depict the current situation without having the problems you list? If you meant instead that the law itself is problematic, then I can understand that, it’s received some criticism for that side of things.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That statement is both transphobic and sexist.

    Blame Zelensky, I guess. I mean I don't, but it sounds like you should...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Everyone does deserve respect and dignity*. The commenter above just meant that the martial law forces a part of the population to be used for conscription

    *Until they break the social contract themselves. I know it wasn't implied in this case but it's a preventive mention so someone doesn't make any weird assumptions

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    One day old troll account

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What does NATO want?

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So NATO forced Putin to invade Ukraine?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I see, Putin is just doing what NATO wants without NATO forcing him.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If NATO wants war and there's a war that Putin started, either they forced him to do it or he's doing what they want unasked. Which is it?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Blocked.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The account is a day old. It's going to be a throwaway account. The person running it is just gonna be on a new account the next time you see them.

    A more-interesting mechanism might be one that has some kind of trust metric.

    Reddit Enhancement Suite remembered how many upvotes and downvotes you'd given a user on past posts and comments and put a total of each by their username, so there was an immediate trust metric available.

    There are ways to game that, like building up bogus accounts with a reputation for the specific purpose of agenda-based posting -- but if you've got a group using burner accounts to try to influence social media that has to at least pay for those accounts by producing past helpful and constructive content, I'd say that we're at least starting things off on the right foot. And there are counters to such gaming attempts.

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