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[–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

So you agree that socialization, that is currently in place in capitalist nations, can mitigate the imbalance that capitalism creates? For example: people with more land pay more school taxes, regardless of how many children of theirs attend school.

My point is socializing more industries, like healthcare, would improve the lives of many poor people at the expense of those with more income. Do you see how that redistributes wealth?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My point that you seem to miss is that under capitalism, capitalists only allow such reforms when their power is threatened, and under capitalism, such reforms are removed when the threat is removed.

    Do you not see that leaving the capitalists in power tends towards a system that benefits the capitalists at the expense of everyone else?

    That every capitalist country has cut away at benefits over the last 30 years?

    Why would you fight to leave the capitalists in power?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I want to understand your point. What do you mean by "capitalists allow" and "leaving the capitalist in power" in the assumption of socializing an industry?

    Do you refer to the fact that in a direct or indirect way, capitalists influence the governement, so even if something socialized it's still under capitalist control?

    Or something more like the case of Uber and taxis? Where capitalism can provide unfair competition.

    Those points are what it comes to my mind with what you say, but I feel like I'm missing something about what you mean, and I'm intrigued.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You conflate capitalism and democracy too much to have an intelligent conversation.

    Good luck storming the castle!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Don't condescend when you don't know basic terms like capitalism or social democracy and its history.

    Capitalism and democracy are diametrically opposed, hence why you cannot have meaningful democracy under capitalism.

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