▲ 1590 ▼ consider the implications for a post scarcity future (slrpnk.net) submitted 2 years ago by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net 382 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 65 points 2 years ago (4 children) We own the factories building the panels. Solar cells don't really grow on trees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hupf@feddit.de 82 points 2 years ago (1 child) Solar cells don't really grow on trees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Are you talking about A scalable self replicating and self sustaining carbon capture technology that uses a mix of highly specialized biological processes to turn CO2 into engineering grade composite construction material, fuel and fertilizer. ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't earn the big money with it, so the capitalism isn't interested. Planting a tree is almost for free. Maybe if we could file a patent on trees or something like that. Let's ask Nestlé how they did it with water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] felbane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A more apt comparison would be Monsanto with corn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] millie@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* I think they're talking about chloroplasts. The cell component trees grow to collect solar energy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Photosynthesis - provided by the OG solar cells. Yeah it won't power my computer, just found the irony comical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Droechai@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You could theoretically build a coal pit in your back yard to turn the wood into coal, then power a steam engine hooked to generators to make electricity to run your computer. If you wanna be super "efficient" you can route the gasses from the coal process through the steam engine too to get power from that as well Probably cleaner and less work to do almost any other kind of power though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) All power on earth is solar if you dig far enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago Almost... Nuclear comes from super-novae, therefore not strictly "solar" (in the sense coming from the sun) but loosely yeah everything comes from stars and star formation permalink fedilink source parent [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Geothermal energy isn't solar. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago The majority of panels produced in the world right now is China. Like dwarfs the other countries. Big oil currently does not own the factories. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nanashi@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Well yeah, but that’s like a one-time purchase (for years) compared to coals/etc. where they can charge for the “amount” used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hupf@feddit.de 82 points 2 years ago (1 child) Solar cells don't really grow on trees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Are you talking about A scalable self replicating and self sustaining carbon capture technology that uses a mix of highly specialized biological processes to turn CO2 into engineering grade composite construction material, fuel and fertilizer. ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't earn the big money with it, so the capitalism isn't interested. Planting a tree is almost for free. Maybe if we could file a patent on trees or something like that. Let's ask Nestlé how they did it with water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] felbane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A more apt comparison would be Monsanto with corn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] millie@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* I think they're talking about chloroplasts. The cell component trees grow to collect solar energy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Are you talking about A scalable self replicating and self sustaining carbon capture technology that uses a mix of highly specialized biological processes to turn CO2 into engineering grade composite construction material, fuel and fertilizer. ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't earn the big money with it, so the capitalism isn't interested. Planting a tree is almost for free. Maybe if we could file a patent on trees or something like that. Let's ask Nestlé how they did it with water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] felbane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A more apt comparison would be Monsanto with corn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] millie@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* I think they're talking about chloroplasts. The cell component trees grow to collect solar energy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't earn the big money with it, so the capitalism isn't interested. Planting a tree is almost for free. Maybe if we could file a patent on trees or something like that. Let's ask Nestlé how they did it with water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] felbane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A more apt comparison would be Monsanto with corn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] felbane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago A more apt comparison would be Monsanto with corn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* I think they're talking about chloroplasts. The cell component trees grow to collect solar energy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Photosynthesis - provided by the OG solar cells. Yeah it won't power my computer, just found the irony comical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Droechai@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You could theoretically build a coal pit in your back yard to turn the wood into coal, then power a steam engine hooked to generators to make electricity to run your computer. If you wanna be super "efficient" you can route the gasses from the coal process through the steam engine too to get power from that as well Probably cleaner and less work to do almost any other kind of power though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) All power on earth is solar if you dig far enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago Almost... Nuclear comes from super-novae, therefore not strictly "solar" (in the sense coming from the sun) but loosely yeah everything comes from stars and star formation permalink fedilink source parent [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Geothermal energy isn't solar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You could theoretically build a coal pit in your back yard to turn the wood into coal, then power a steam engine hooked to generators to make electricity to run your computer. If you wanna be super "efficient" you can route the gasses from the coal process through the steam engine too to get power from that as well Probably cleaner and less work to do almost any other kind of power though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) All power on earth is solar if you dig far enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago Almost... Nuclear comes from super-novae, therefore not strictly "solar" (in the sense coming from the sun) but loosely yeah everything comes from stars and star formation permalink fedilink source parent [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Geothermal energy isn't solar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) All power on earth is solar if you dig far enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago Almost... Nuclear comes from super-novae, therefore not strictly "solar" (in the sense coming from the sun) but loosely yeah everything comes from stars and star formation permalink fedilink source parent [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Geothermal energy isn't solar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago Almost... Nuclear comes from super-novae, therefore not strictly "solar" (in the sense coming from the sun) but loosely yeah everything comes from stars and star formation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Geothermal energy isn't solar. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago The majority of panels produced in the world right now is China. Like dwarfs the other countries. Big oil currently does not own the factories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nanashi@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Well yeah, but that’s like a one-time purchase (for years) compared to coals/etc. where they can charge for the “amount” used permalink fedilink source parent