▲ 1 ▼ What are your opinions on Matrix? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by Prater@lemmy.world to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments I was sold on Matrix as a viable alternative to Discord but recently read this article which made it look not so good.
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Matrix is fine, just use end-to-end endcryption which is trivial to set up. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) Theres a lot of metadata that's not encrypted in matrix, some of which goes to matrix.org no matter what server youre using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If your talking to someone and your both on a server that's not matrix.org no data gets sent to matrix.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Except that the Element web-client also phones home to matrix/element mothership. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) thats one check and just use another client :P and that doesnt send the messages in the room to matrix.org so that doesnt have anything to do with the comment I replied to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent [–] dngray@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago That is the nature of any federated protocol. E2EE works well enough within rooms and that is likely where private data is to be anyway. As long as you Matrix and assume that everyone can see your Matrix ID and room IDs you'll be okay. XMPP isn't any better in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) Theres a lot of metadata that's not encrypted in matrix, some of which goes to matrix.org no matter what server youre using. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If your talking to someone and your both on a server that's not matrix.org no data gets sent to matrix.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Except that the Element web-client also phones home to matrix/element mothership. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) thats one check and just use another client :P and that doesnt send the messages in the room to matrix.org so that doesnt have anything to do with the comment I replied to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent [–] dngray@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago That is the nature of any federated protocol. E2EE works well enough within rooms and that is likely where private data is to be anyway. As long as you Matrix and assume that everyone can see your Matrix ID and room IDs you'll be okay. XMPP isn't any better in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) If your talking to someone and your both on a server that's not matrix.org no data gets sent to matrix.org permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Except that the Element web-client also phones home to matrix/element mothership. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) thats one check and just use another client :P and that doesnt send the messages in the room to matrix.org so that doesnt have anything to do with the comment I replied to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Except that the Element web-client also phones home to matrix/element mothership. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) thats one check and just use another client :P and that doesnt send the messages in the room to matrix.org so that doesnt have anything to do with the comment I replied to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) thats one check and just use another client :P and that doesnt send the messages in the room to matrix.org so that doesnt have anything to do with the comment I replied to permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mister_monster@monero.town 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Now you're just making excuses for new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) all it does is ping to check that your config.md is valid I think its not the end of the world like people make it out to be and its element/new vector not new vector/matrix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dngray@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago That is the nature of any federated protocol. E2EE works well enough within rooms and that is likely where private data is to be anyway. As long as you Matrix and assume that everyone can see your Matrix ID and room IDs you'll be okay. XMPP isn't any better in that regard. permalink fedilink source parent