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Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon, Roscosmos says (www.euronews.com)
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[–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I'm very conflicted by this.

On one hand it's sad that so much time and effort has been destroyed. That the hopes and pride of so many well-meaning Russian scientists has been dashed. That the science lost.

On the other hand, Russia launched this thing during their invasion of, and war against, tbe Ukraine in order to demonstrate that they're big enough and smart enough to do two things at once. To claw back some of the respect that has been lost by not having taken the Ukraine in three days...

Sigh.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It’s just Ukraine. No β€œthe” is needed.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In fact, the 'the' should be removed as it is an intentional way of delegitimizing Ukraine as a separate country. Regional phrasing thing apparently.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I heard the word ukraine used to mean like wastelands or swamplands or something like that. And all the Russians would call it that as an insult when it wasn't an independent nation yet. So when they did become one, the kept the name but dropped the the. So, Ukraine is a prideful name for a strong country. The Ukraine is an insult.

    Not wastelands or swamplands but borderlands

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    So because you're right, I'm not allowed to be right at all? I never said my reason was the sole reason. I brought up a single point, and your article backed me up.

    You may be more right, but I'm not wrong

    Edit:When Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, it was referred to as "the Ukraine" because it was a region in a larger country, according to linguists and historians. It would be the equivalent of saying "the Northeast" or "the Rockies" in the United States, said Michael Flier, a professor of Ukrainian philology at Harvard University.

    Russians used the construction "na Ukraine," roughly "in the Ukraine," while it was part of the Soviet Union, he said.

    Read your source my dude

    Edit: the man changed his comment so now it looks like I'm arguing the same thing with him.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    So because you're right, I'm not allowed to be right at all? I never said my reason was the sole reason. I brought up a single point, and your article backed me up.

    You may be more right, but I'm not wrong

    Edit:When Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, it was referred to as "the Ukraine" because it was a region in a larger country, according to linguists and historians. It would be the equivalent of saying "the Northeast" or "the Rockies" in the United States, said Michael Flier, a professor of Ukrainian philology at Harvard University.

    Russians used the construction "na Ukraine," roughly "in the Ukraine," while it was part of the Soviet Union, he said.

    Read your source my dude

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