▲ 427 ▼ Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft crashes into Moon (www.bbc.com) submitted 2 years ago by transistor@lemdro.id to c/technology@lemmy.world 46 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rainhall@feddit.online 18 points 2 years ago Crewed vs uncrewed is a decision made at the very beginning of the planning stages, years ago. These days a crew is just a gigantic extra expense on a mission with little return. Remotely operated missions can achieve all their scientific objectives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadcream@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Manned lunar lander is a mich complex piece of technology which needs to be developed from scratch. It also needs a much more powerful rocket which Russia don't have either. It's at least a decade of extra R&D time even if they get all the funding they need and magically get rid of corruption (which obviously won't happen). It's unmanned not because they chose it but because they are literally incapable of making a manned mission (at the very least for a couple of generations). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Well, "incapable" is still not true. Yet. There are people and even places. Fewer and fewer. It's just that nobody really wants anything. All those "big fish" of Russia's current regime - they are corrupt in the full sense of the word, they don't have any goals even of the tragicomedy "USSR restoration" sort. They are all simply being bought and sold by various more coherent dictatorships and factions around. I mean, if there was hope for anything else, then that would reflect on the military and a military takeover would have already happened. Maybe not a good thing without context, but that would mean that Russia as a society is not in such deep apathy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? It clearly states in the article they knew it was risky... I would consider that rushing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html We've just had more information come out, and it appears you're right about the rushing! I'll eat crow on that permalink fedilink source parent [+] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is what they said, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rainhall@feddit.online 18 points 2 years ago Crewed vs uncrewed is a decision made at the very beginning of the planning stages, years ago. These days a crew is just a gigantic extra expense on a mission with little return. Remotely operated missions can achieve all their scientific objectives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadcream@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Manned lunar lander is a mich complex piece of technology which needs to be developed from scratch. It also needs a much more powerful rocket which Russia don't have either. It's at least a decade of extra R&D time even if they get all the funding they need and magically get rid of corruption (which obviously won't happen). It's unmanned not because they chose it but because they are literally incapable of making a manned mission (at the very least for a couple of generations). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Well, "incapable" is still not true. Yet. There are people and even places. Fewer and fewer. It's just that nobody really wants anything. All those "big fish" of Russia's current regime - they are corrupt in the full sense of the word, they don't have any goals even of the tragicomedy "USSR restoration" sort. They are all simply being bought and sold by various more coherent dictatorships and factions around. I mean, if there was hope for anything else, then that would reflect on the military and a military takeover would have already happened. Maybe not a good thing without context, but that would mean that Russia as a society is not in such deep apathy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Well, "incapable" is still not true. Yet. There are people and even places. Fewer and fewer. It's just that nobody really wants anything. All those "big fish" of Russia's current regime - they are corrupt in the full sense of the word, they don't have any goals even of the tragicomedy "USSR restoration" sort. They are all simply being bought and sold by various more coherent dictatorships and factions around. I mean, if there was hope for anything else, then that would reflect on the military and a military takeover would have already happened. Maybe not a good thing without context, but that would mean that Russia as a society is not in such deep apathy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What? It clearly states in the article they knew it was risky... I would consider that rushing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html We've just had more information come out, and it appears you're right about the rushing! I'll eat crow on that permalink fedilink source parent [+] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html We've just had more information come out, and it appears you're right about the rushing! I'll eat crow on that permalink fedilink source parent [+] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html We've just had more information come out, and it appears you're right about the rushing! I'll eat crow on that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is what they said, yeah. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent