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[–] figaro@lemdro.id 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) lol I'm not going to read this, sorry permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) I refuse to engage with any explanation of a complex historical or Geopolitical situation that cannot be boiled down to "Russia bad". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah I'm just not going to read a novel to respond to you. I'm giving other people I disagree with reasonable replies. Your reply is unreasonable engage with though. Feel free to try again though with a more reasonable response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I didn't even post that. Very reasonable of you to not pay attention to basic details like who you're responding to. Almost as if you're simply putting on a facade of open-mindedness to cover for he fact that you will not engage with any ideas more complex than "Russia bad, NATO good". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Ah, sorry, you are right about getting the person wrong. The way lemmy is laid out on the app I'm using doesn't show the post before you, so I just assumed you were the same person. In any case, that doesn't change what I said. I'm not going to read a novel then dissect it piece by piece when the premise of the entire post is "going to war and forcefully occupying a neighboring country can be justified." I'm not saying all of Russia is bad, by the way. I admire Russia for a lot of reasons. The decision to invade their neighbor, however, cannot be justified, in the same way that the vast majority of the United States' wars cannot be justified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frank@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's like one page. You asked for an explanation of what's going on. Take it or leave it. Sorry it's not formatted very well I had to type it on the fly at like 3am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guys you can't justify a war with hundreds of thousands of deaths where one side is sending missiles at civilian buildings on the daily, it's just not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) I refuse to engage with any explanation of a complex historical or Geopolitical situation that cannot be boiled down to "Russia bad". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah I'm just not going to read a novel to respond to you. I'm giving other people I disagree with reasonable replies. Your reply is unreasonable engage with though. Feel free to try again though with a more reasonable response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I didn't even post that. Very reasonable of you to not pay attention to basic details like who you're responding to. Almost as if you're simply putting on a facade of open-mindedness to cover for he fact that you will not engage with any ideas more complex than "Russia bad, NATO good". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Ah, sorry, you are right about getting the person wrong. The way lemmy is laid out on the app I'm using doesn't show the post before you, so I just assumed you were the same person. In any case, that doesn't change what I said. I'm not going to read a novel then dissect it piece by piece when the premise of the entire post is "going to war and forcefully occupying a neighboring country can be justified." I'm not saying all of Russia is bad, by the way. I admire Russia for a lot of reasons. The decision to invade their neighbor, however, cannot be justified, in the same way that the vast majority of the United States' wars cannot be justified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frank@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's like one page. You asked for an explanation of what's going on. Take it or leave it. Sorry it's not formatted very well I had to type it on the fly at like 3am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guys you can't justify a war with hundreds of thousands of deaths where one side is sending missiles at civilian buildings on the daily, it's just not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah I'm just not going to read a novel to respond to you. I'm giving other people I disagree with reasonable replies. Your reply is unreasonable engage with though. Feel free to try again though with a more reasonable response. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I didn't even post that. Very reasonable of you to not pay attention to basic details like who you're responding to. Almost as if you're simply putting on a facade of open-mindedness to cover for he fact that you will not engage with any ideas more complex than "Russia bad, NATO good". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Ah, sorry, you are right about getting the person wrong. The way lemmy is laid out on the app I'm using doesn't show the post before you, so I just assumed you were the same person. In any case, that doesn't change what I said. I'm not going to read a novel then dissect it piece by piece when the premise of the entire post is "going to war and forcefully occupying a neighboring country can be justified." I'm not saying all of Russia is bad, by the way. I admire Russia for a lot of reasons. The decision to invade their neighbor, however, cannot be justified, in the same way that the vast majority of the United States' wars cannot be justified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frank@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's like one page. You asked for an explanation of what's going on. Take it or leave it. Sorry it's not formatted very well I had to type it on the fly at like 3am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guys you can't justify a war with hundreds of thousands of deaths where one side is sending missiles at civilian buildings on the daily, it's just not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) I didn't even post that. Very reasonable of you to not pay attention to basic details like who you're responding to. Almost as if you're simply putting on a facade of open-mindedness to cover for he fact that you will not engage with any ideas more complex than "Russia bad, NATO good". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Ah, sorry, you are right about getting the person wrong. The way lemmy is laid out on the app I'm using doesn't show the post before you, so I just assumed you were the same person. In any case, that doesn't change what I said. I'm not going to read a novel then dissect it piece by piece when the premise of the entire post is "going to war and forcefully occupying a neighboring country can be justified." I'm not saying all of Russia is bad, by the way. I admire Russia for a lot of reasons. The decision to invade their neighbor, however, cannot be justified, in the same way that the vast majority of the United States' wars cannot be justified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] figaro@lemdro.id -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Ah, sorry, you are right about getting the person wrong. The way lemmy is laid out on the app I'm using doesn't show the post before you, so I just assumed you were the same person. In any case, that doesn't change what I said. I'm not going to read a novel then dissect it piece by piece when the premise of the entire post is "going to war and forcefully occupying a neighboring country can be justified." I'm not saying all of Russia is bad, by the way. I admire Russia for a lot of reasons. The decision to invade their neighbor, however, cannot be justified, in the same way that the vast majority of the United States' wars cannot be justified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) By the time you took to read the other posts and wrote the replies saying "not gonna read that" you could easily just read that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I read it. Same answer I've been giving the whole time still applies. Nothing justifies an invasion and the murder of thousands of civilians. The majority of the Ukrainian people support continuing to defend their homes, including in the eastern regions. It is up to them to decide what they want to do. If they want to concede, they will do that. It's pretty simple. Anyway, I'm done responding now. Good luck with your lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Ukrainians were couped every decade to make them hate Russians. 1991, 2004, 2014, and note how Zelensky was elected as a peace candidate, to stop the civil war. Instead there was a military buildup to invasion and multiple ceasefire breaches. In the meantime between those coups, Ukrainians seemed to gravitate towards at least neutrality and peace. Ukrainians will have been repeatedly violated by USA and now they are dying for Uncle Sam imperial interest while their country is being peacemeal sold for the peanuts and the war fervor as in every war ever fry their brains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's like one page. You asked for an explanation of what's going on. Take it or leave it. Sorry it's not formatted very well I had to type it on the fly at like 3am. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guys you can't justify a war with hundreds of thousands of deaths where one side is sending missiles at civilian buildings on the daily, it's just not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guys you can't justify a war with hundreds of thousands of deaths where one side is sending missiles at civilian buildings on the daily, it's just not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago I didin't justify anything. I just told you what happened. permalink fedilink source parent