▲ 115 ▼ Has the time since the invention of agriculture been long enough for any evolutionary changes to occur, and if so, what are some of those changes? (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments Edit: I meant specifically humans.
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) That's not really natural selection though, is it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is, if you count humans as part of nature, which they are in respect to natural selection. Flowers and blossoms are selected by their attractiveness to bees and other insects. Apples were selected by their attractiveness to bears (yes, bears where the first to domesticate apples). And watermelons were selected by their attractiveness to humans. Only GMOs don't fall into the category of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think so, at least in the context of natural selection. GMOs for example are certainly not part of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No, but it is evolutionary permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s artificial selection, still a process that drives evolution. Just drives it a lot faster. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is, if you count humans as part of nature, which they are in respect to natural selection. Flowers and blossoms are selected by their attractiveness to bees and other insects. Apples were selected by their attractiveness to bears (yes, bears where the first to domesticate apples). And watermelons were selected by their attractiveness to humans. Only GMOs don't fall into the category of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think so, at least in the context of natural selection. GMOs for example are certainly not part of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] superkret@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think so, at least in the context of natural selection. GMOs for example are certainly not part of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think so, at least in the context of natural selection. GMOs for example are certainly not part of natural selection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] superkret@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago That's true if you talk about nature as such. I was just talking about the selection part. The thing is that there are quite a few species that "domesticate" other species. And while doing so, they conciously select for the specimen that best fits their needs. Bears domesticated apples, selecting for the biggest aand sweetest, thus apples evolved from small and bitter to a bit larger and sweeter. Ants farm aphids and also there they select for those that yield the most milk. The big difference between humans and animals is that we form much more of these symbiotic relationships. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No, but it is evolutionary permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s artificial selection, still a process that drives evolution. Just drives it a lot faster. permalink fedilink source parent