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"Twy Edge Pwetty Pwease" (lemmy.world)
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[–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Thing is, installing win11 without linking a Microsoft account is still a rather large pain in the ass. 1000% worth it minf you, but they really don't want you to.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I just did it this morning, when you burn the ISO to a usb drive using Rufus you get a nice little menu that allows you to pre-set a local account, disable the TPM check and more.

    The biggest pain is downloading the windows 11 iso in the first place. You can only do that when the site believes you're not already using windows.

    Bypassing the online check on setup is basically required on new hardware anyways, since most 2.5g/wifi6+ networking drivers aren't included in the installer.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    this is a feature of rufus, not of windows, while it's really cool, go rep rufus, not windows. Especially for the linux users who don't use windows and have to suffer through what is sometimes arbitrarily confusing. I will say, there is a script out there that works great for flashing windows isos under linux. Uses a grub intermediary layer to ensure consistent behavior i think? Idk, i used it once.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you're in a situation where you absolutely must use Windows, at the out-of-box screen ,Enter a fake email address and a fake password a few times, and once it fails to sign in it will give you the option of creating a local account. Sneaky, deceitful, and underhanded, sure, but at least it's still possible.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i've already commented this, but just to get my point across properly here, it's these kinds of comments that bother me. They reek of "too occupied with whether we could do it, rather than whether we should do it."

    It's a neat trick, but completely fucking ignores the problem. It's like a car shipping from the factory with a bunged transmission but everyone going "well you can just not use first gear" or "well, doing a swap is easy" and my favorite "just re-gear it with third party parts, these ones don't explode" Like, yeah, you could. Nobody would be buying that car though. For some reason tech nerds have a masochistic relationship to this shit and i dont understand why.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am repping Rufus here, not windows. Painful as it may sound, truth is that most people creating windows usbs would do so from windows.

    The tool you're talking about might be Ventoy. Which is indeed a great way to make any type of bootable usb stick. Once installed you can just throw all sorts of isos (and more) to your usb drive and it'll generate nice grub menu to pick from.

    You'll just have to use the classic oobe\bypassnro method instead to install windows. (The fact that you have to use a workaround to create a local account at all is still BS, there's no denying that.)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    i get it. It just pisses me off to no end when people bring up genuine issues and people go "oh but you can just unplug the fuckin ethernet" yeah and why do we need to fucking unplug it again?

    I mean yeah i could just not install a shitty piece of software like windows, given my linux user nature, i should do that, but here i am trying to be reasonable, and people keep yelling at me, because apparently i dont know that "well uhm ackshually"

    like the guy who responded to my comment with "well just use a fake email if you REALLY have to" like yeah, that's cool, im sure there are other ways of doing that too. That was not the point of my comment though.

    Ventoy is pretty cool, not what i was talking about though, woeusb iirc, really slick little script. Used it for a win 7 iso ages ago.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People having to work with Microsoft stuff (not just windows) have gotten so used to needing to find workarounds for everything that those genuine issues have become the baseline expectation.

    Only having to fill in a wrong email/password a few times sounds like peak user experience compared to the shit I have to pull in Azure/Power BI/AD at times. My genuine first reaction when reading that post was "ah of course, that makes sense".

    Personally I use Linux for server/container stuff wherever possible. With the occasional excursion into Manjaro to see what's happening on the desktop side.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    see i think this is the primary difference here. If i were to open azure and see anything even remotely like that i would immediately stop using it and find something better. I simply don't have time for bullshit like this, especially when i can just pay someone else less money, for something more primitive, that works more effectively for me anyway.

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