β² 117 βΌ Nixos. (feddit.de) submitted 2 years ago by Johanno@feddit.de to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments Well let's see if it is worth it or if I go back to debian.
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gonna try that next. Probably. Nixos isn't really working if I don't know how to do stuff. For example I can't change settings in vlc because it is read only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a whole different story when it's just a package manager and not a distro. I made this comment to help people get started. I'd only use nixos if there was a specific reason. Otherwise it's too much trouble for practically no benefits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The benefit would be: changing stuff doesn't break it. And if it does you can easily roll back. Keeping the config file sets up a new installation like the old one without trouble. Somehow I don't think you really need it if you aren't distro hopping but I need it way too much. Currently the trade offs are too big I think. Programs don't work because of the atomic behaviour. And the learning curve is steep even for Linux veterans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try bazzite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mhh fedora. I liked it and I liked nobara. However I liked debian more somehow. But I could consider going back for his. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent [β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent [β] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't need nixos for that. The only thing you lose is rolling back system configuration, unless you use system-manager. Unless you're doing scientific computing, or being a sysadmin for a company, you don't actually need nixos. It's at that scale that system reproducibility becomes important enough to offset the downsides. For everyone else, home-manager and a list of packages are more than enough. The learning curve is not that bad, it's just that the resources are a pile of burning garbage. Also, idk what you're doing with VLC, but ~/.config should still work AFAIK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error. I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything. Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved. And that shit should only be saved in the home folder. I think I have to clean my home folder. But then I have to do the setup of plasma again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a whole different story when it's just a package manager and not a distro. I made this comment to help people get started. I'd only use nixos if there was a specific reason. Otherwise it's too much trouble for practically no benefits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The benefit would be: changing stuff doesn't break it. And if it does you can easily roll back. Keeping the config file sets up a new installation like the old one without trouble. Somehow I don't think you really need it if you aren't distro hopping but I need it way too much. Currently the trade offs are too big I think. Programs don't work because of the atomic behaviour. And the learning curve is steep even for Linux veterans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try bazzite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mhh fedora. I liked it and I liked nobara. However I liked debian more somehow. But I could consider going back for his. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent [β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent [β] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't need nixos for that. The only thing you lose is rolling back system configuration, unless you use system-manager. Unless you're doing scientific computing, or being a sysadmin for a company, you don't actually need nixos. It's at that scale that system reproducibility becomes important enough to offset the downsides. For everyone else, home-manager and a list of packages are more than enough. The learning curve is not that bad, it's just that the resources are a pile of burning garbage. Also, idk what you're doing with VLC, but ~/.config should still work AFAIK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error. I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything. Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved. And that shit should only be saved in the home folder. I think I have to clean my home folder. But then I have to do the setup of plasma again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The benefit would be: changing stuff doesn't break it. And if it does you can easily roll back. Keeping the config file sets up a new installation like the old one without trouble. Somehow I don't think you really need it if you aren't distro hopping but I need it way too much. Currently the trade offs are too big I think. Programs don't work because of the atomic behaviour. And the learning curve is steep even for Linux veterans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try bazzite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mhh fedora. I liked it and I liked nobara. However I liked debian more somehow. But I could consider going back for his. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent [β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent [β] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't need nixos for that. The only thing you lose is rolling back system configuration, unless you use system-manager. Unless you're doing scientific computing, or being a sysadmin for a company, you don't actually need nixos. It's at that scale that system reproducibility becomes important enough to offset the downsides. For everyone else, home-manager and a list of packages are more than enough. The learning curve is not that bad, it's just that the resources are a pile of burning garbage. Also, idk what you're doing with VLC, but ~/.config should still work AFAIK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error. I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything. Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved. And that shit should only be saved in the home folder. I think I have to clean my home folder. But then I have to do the setup of plasma again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try bazzite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mhh fedora. I liked it and I liked nobara. However I liked debian more somehow. But I could consider going back for his. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent [β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mhh fedora. I liked it and I liked nobara. However I liked debian more somehow. But I could consider going back for his. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent [β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent
[β] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago My heart is always with Debian, but Bazzite is a surprisingly useable immutable OS. I would suggest using it for your core suite then use Distrobox w/ Debian for any apps outside of that. It's so snappy! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jack@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago I second Bazzite, it's really good. And more promising than the Nix monstrosity permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don't need nixos for that. The only thing you lose is rolling back system configuration, unless you use system-manager. Unless you're doing scientific computing, or being a sysadmin for a company, you don't actually need nixos. It's at that scale that system reproducibility becomes important enough to offset the downsides. For everyone else, home-manager and a list of packages are more than enough. The learning curve is not that bad, it's just that the resources are a pile of burning garbage. Also, idk what you're doing with VLC, but ~/.config should still work AFAIK. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error. I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything. Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved. And that shit should only be saved in the home folder. I think I have to clean my home folder. But then I have to do the setup of plasma again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did install vlc. I started vlc. I noticed completely wrong subtitle size. I went to settings and tried to change some and save. Vlc throws an error it can't save the file, permission error. I install vlc with flatpak. Same subtitle error. I go to the settings, I don't get an error but the settings don't change anything. Also almost anything i do in the plasma settings doesn't get saved. And that shit should only be saved in the home folder. I think I have to clean my home folder. But then I have to do the setup of plasma again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. I gave up on nixos long before getting to that point. On Debian I use apt for to install a few user packages like alacritty because of Nix issues. Everything else is pretty much the same linux experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 2 points 2 years ago The concept is a great idea. The documentation is rare and the atomic behaviour seems to break my whole Linux work flow. Which is a good thing I guess. But I can't Google "how to do x on nixos" and get a reasonable answer. I get nothing. Or some weird forums where I don't know what they are talking about. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Johanno@feddit.de [S] 1 point 2 years ago Ok can confirm. 90% of my problems went away on a new home directory. However I still don't know how to iscsi. permalink fedilink source parent
