▲ 386 ▼ Humanity will shrink in the future: 97% of countries will experience negative growth by 2100 (english.elpais.com) submitted 2 years ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 114 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's a good thing right? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children) It will be very tough economically as fewer people will need to work to support those in retirement. Economic problems, in turn tend to lead to social unrest and a turn to extremist political positions and solutions. But it should at least take some pressure off the planet. Maybe AI can pick up the slack. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This is exactly why Japan is investing so much in robotics. They have a rapidly aging population without enough young people to replace them or care for them when they're too old to work. They will probably eventually have to relax their immigration policies, but that will be a last resort for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In indeed is an economical and political issue. It seems like there is enough money and resources to support the elder people. It is just accumulated in the hands of corporations that are only valued by their growth. I hope that the negative growth can rub off onto companies too, so that they are valued for their stable income instead of needing to grow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago All the incentive structures in capitalism reward growth. It's true in all levels of all companies. It will be excruciatingly hard to change. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. We have realized as a species that we are beyond max capacity and it just affects us negatively. It's one of the most amazing things that we realized just as nature does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lens17@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago I agree with you, that ecologically, this will probably be a good thing. Economically, we will need a different system as i doubt that any increase in consumption per capita could outweigh the increase in people we currently see. And our economic system is dependent on growth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children) It will be very tough economically as fewer people will need to work to support those in retirement. Economic problems, in turn tend to lead to social unrest and a turn to extremist political positions and solutions. But it should at least take some pressure off the planet. Maybe AI can pick up the slack. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This is exactly why Japan is investing so much in robotics. They have a rapidly aging population without enough young people to replace them or care for them when they're too old to work. They will probably eventually have to relax their immigration policies, but that will be a last resort for them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In indeed is an economical and political issue. It seems like there is enough money and resources to support the elder people. It is just accumulated in the hands of corporations that are only valued by their growth. I hope that the negative growth can rub off onto companies too, so that they are valued for their stable income instead of needing to grow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago All the incentive structures in capitalism reward growth. It's true in all levels of all companies. It will be excruciatingly hard to change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago This is exactly why Japan is investing so much in robotics. They have a rapidly aging population without enough young people to replace them or care for them when they're too old to work. They will probably eventually have to relax their immigration policies, but that will be a last resort for them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In indeed is an economical and political issue. It seems like there is enough money and resources to support the elder people. It is just accumulated in the hands of corporations that are only valued by their growth. I hope that the negative growth can rub off onto companies too, so that they are valued for their stable income instead of needing to grow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago All the incentive structures in capitalism reward growth. It's true in all levels of all companies. It will be excruciatingly hard to change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago All the incentive structures in capitalism reward growth. It's true in all levels of all companies. It will be excruciatingly hard to change. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. We have realized as a species that we are beyond max capacity and it just affects us negatively. It's one of the most amazing things that we realized just as nature does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lens17@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago I agree with you, that ecologically, this will probably be a good thing. Economically, we will need a different system as i doubt that any increase in consumption per capita could outweigh the increase in people we currently see. And our economic system is dependent on growth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lens17@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago I agree with you, that ecologically, this will probably be a good thing. Economically, we will need a different system as i doubt that any increase in consumption per capita could outweigh the increase in people we currently see. And our economic system is dependent on growth. permalink fedilink source parent