▲ 642 ▼ Does this plan make sense? v3 (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by 3volver@lemmy.world to c/general@lemmy.world 431 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) All the points are nice but the plan does not "make sense" in the sense that it will probably never happen (at least within our lifetimes). permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cryptosporidium140@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need a new country with a fresh constitution based on these ideals and what we've learned since the last one. Like what the US did to the British in 1776, but again and better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't really see "new countries" being a thing in that way ever again. The USA was new because a "new" piece of land was literally found (well obviously it was already found by other people but you get what I mean). There is no new land to find today. You can't just set off and create a new country - all of the land is already taken. You'll need to work within the confines of the current countries and try your best to improve them gradually. At least, any other approach would probably be very bloody... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t worry, World War 3 will leave vast swaths of uninhabited land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Uninhabitable* permalink fedilink source parent [–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I mean, the US was just a colonial state that broke ties to the british monarchy, and that shit happens all the time, so I think through that method, there's still a pretty good chance. If you're talking more about like, the establishment of the US as a state through the genocide of the native peoples, intentional or otherwise, I'd say, sure, yeah, that's hopefully never gonna happen again, but general independence movements happen all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago If you arent dying, dont overestimate capitalism's remaining lifetime permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cryptosporidium140@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need a new country with a fresh constitution based on these ideals and what we've learned since the last one. Like what the US did to the British in 1776, but again and better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't really see "new countries" being a thing in that way ever again. The USA was new because a "new" piece of land was literally found (well obviously it was already found by other people but you get what I mean). There is no new land to find today. You can't just set off and create a new country - all of the land is already taken. You'll need to work within the confines of the current countries and try your best to improve them gradually. At least, any other approach would probably be very bloody... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t worry, World War 3 will leave vast swaths of uninhabited land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Uninhabitable* permalink fedilink source parent [–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I mean, the US was just a colonial state that broke ties to the british monarchy, and that shit happens all the time, so I think through that method, there's still a pretty good chance. If you're talking more about like, the establishment of the US as a state through the genocide of the native peoples, intentional or otherwise, I'd say, sure, yeah, that's hopefully never gonna happen again, but general independence movements happen all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't really see "new countries" being a thing in that way ever again. The USA was new because a "new" piece of land was literally found (well obviously it was already found by other people but you get what I mean). There is no new land to find today. You can't just set off and create a new country - all of the land is already taken. You'll need to work within the confines of the current countries and try your best to improve them gradually. At least, any other approach would probably be very bloody... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t worry, World War 3 will leave vast swaths of uninhabited land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Uninhabitable* permalink fedilink source parent [–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I mean, the US was just a colonial state that broke ties to the british monarchy, and that shit happens all the time, so I think through that method, there's still a pretty good chance. If you're talking more about like, the establishment of the US as a state through the genocide of the native peoples, intentional or otherwise, I'd say, sure, yeah, that's hopefully never gonna happen again, but general independence movements happen all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t worry, World War 3 will leave vast swaths of uninhabited land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Uninhabitable* permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I mean, the US was just a colonial state that broke ties to the british monarchy, and that shit happens all the time, so I think through that method, there's still a pretty good chance. If you're talking more about like, the establishment of the US as a state through the genocide of the native peoples, intentional or otherwise, I'd say, sure, yeah, that's hopefully never gonna happen again, but general independence movements happen all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago If you arent dying, dont overestimate capitalism's remaining lifetime permalink fedilink source parent
