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Both of these removals are tacit endorsement of ableism and racism and this mod should be removed. (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* by to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Also here is the head mod defending a transphobe/chaser https://hexbear.net/comment/3762972

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[–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

making an argument with verifiable facts isn't an attempt to derail a discussion -- it's an attempt to further the discussion. the OP is an anarchist, not some tankie.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Eh, you can definitely use verifiable facts to derail a discussion.* It all depends on context and whether those facts are being framed truthfully and with good faith. There just isn't enough context to go off of here. I don't really care about OP's politics because the point stands whether I agree with his politics or not

    *Edit: See the book Merchants of Doubt about how cigarette companies in the 70s misused scientific findings to cast doubt on the link between cigarettes and cancer. Stuff like pointing out how women and men had similar smoking rates, but not cancer rates. They left out the part that women smokers tended to be much younger. Thus, in a couple decades their cancer rates matched men's, but by then the damage was done. Bam - use of verifiable facts to lie and derail

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    *Edit: See the book Merchants of Doubt about how cigarette companies in the 70s misused scientific findings to cast doubt on the link between cigarettes and cancer. Stuff like pointing out how women and men had similar smoking rates, but not cancer rates. They left out the part that women smokers tended to be much younger. Thus, in a couple decades their cancer rates matched men's. Bam - use of verifiable facts to lie and derail

    ok yep, fair. completely see your point. my point was just that the comment was in good faith and from someone who doesn't even have a political allegiance to the projects he's talking about.

    but all of this is secondary to the main issues which are:

    1. a mod using ableism and banning criticism of it
    2. the same mod defending chasers

    on hexbear, we don't tolerate this shit and we don't want to expose the vulnerable members of our community to it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    In don’t think we agree on what the main issue is here.

    My main issue is people starting shit and escalating, then when the mods take action escalating again to the instance admins.

    I think that “you on hexbear” need to take a chill pill and let the shorks run their instance.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I don’t know op or his politics, but the comment is clearly baiting and escalating. Unless the comment goes to the heart of the discussion at hand (which it might, but I don’t know), I think the decision to remove is defensible.

    Note that I’m saying defensible, not correct, or great, or just. I’m not a big fan of just nuking comments in general, but moderation is hard work and as far as I’m concerned, this falls squarely within a mod team’s authority.

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