▲ 840 ▼ James Webb telescope confirms there is something seriously wrong with our understanding of the universe (www.livescience.com) submitted 2 years ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/news@lemmy.world 298 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 26 points 2 years ago (3 children) Thank goodness computers are never wrong. :-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Communist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, they always do exactly as they're told! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hrm, in that case, now I wonder how they are ever correct!?:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Software Engineer, I ask myself that question several times per day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago Bc chips are as dumb as rocks, but really really really good at repetition:-). permalink fedilink source parent [–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Easy, think about who decides whether or not they're correct. Again, humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago For now... except managers don't want to actually think, yet do want to be in control of even the tiniest aspects of every single fucking thing (see e.g. Boeing planes literally falling out of the sky, against the wishes of the engineers bc the managers figured that this way of skipping maintenance and then covering that truth from federal safety commissioners was "better"... for the sake of their profits ofc), so how soon until their unthinking need to "feel like" they are in control leads them to using computers to control the people, without even those humans who hold the admin rights ever making any conscious decisions? I suspect that a thinking computer may be correct far more often than an unthinking human.:-D permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* And thank goodness it's not nearly impossible to convince a computer that it isn't correct when you don't have admin rights. sudo you're a fucking idiot, computer permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, president of IBM permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I cannot stomach much of it, but it is fun to go back and watch older media related to technology - e.g. the six million dollar man has like spinning tape disks, when computers were entire-room affairs. So he was right, using the definition at that time, though there was also so much potential for more. Also it is funny to hear them say that technology would literally make the six million dollar man "better", not just "well again" or "he will have side effects but his capabilities will be far above the norm" or some such. One glance at Google these days, or a Boeing plane, does not inspire me to think of the word "better" than what came before even from those exact companies. Technology moves forward, but I am not so sure that the new is always "better" than the old. It was an interesting bias that they had though, during the cold war and after the moon landing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "We can improve him." And I believe tape storage hadn't even been invented when Watson said that. It may have even been pre-magnetic tape entirely because I believe he said it before a computer was actually invented (unless you count Babbage's difference engine). It was a prediction of what the world would need if computers existed if I remember correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago And it makes total sense, bc the idea of a "PC" hadn't been tried yet, bc the technology simply wasn't yet up to the task. And yeah I think I remember the same thing about that quote, though who knows:-P. Anyway, it was hard for computers to be wrong about simple arithmetic operations, but they've come a long way since then, and AIs are now wrong more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering we now have a "CD" that stores 125TB of data ( https://www.livescience.com/technology/electronics/new-petabit-scale-optical-disc-can-store-as-much-information-as-15000-dvds ). Not all older tech are necessarily worse. An LTO-9 tape can also store 18TB of data per tape. It's still sold today and great for archival. Other cheaper, less error prone tech usually gets mass market penetration. But I am happy that massive storage niche tech is still there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah tape is niche, but still serves its particular purpose well!:-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hey, they always do exactly as they're told! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hrm, in that case, now I wonder how they are ever correct!?:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Software Engineer, I ask myself that question several times per day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago Bc chips are as dumb as rocks, but really really really good at repetition:-). permalink fedilink source parent [–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Easy, think about who decides whether or not they're correct. Again, humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago For now... except managers don't want to actually think, yet do want to be in control of even the tiniest aspects of every single fucking thing (see e.g. Boeing planes literally falling out of the sky, against the wishes of the engineers bc the managers figured that this way of skipping maintenance and then covering that truth from federal safety commissioners was "better"... for the sake of their profits ofc), so how soon until their unthinking need to "feel like" they are in control leads them to using computers to control the people, without even those humans who hold the admin rights ever making any conscious decisions? I suspect that a thinking computer may be correct far more often than an unthinking human.:-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hrm, in that case, now I wonder how they are ever correct!?:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Software Engineer, I ask myself that question several times per day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago Bc chips are as dumb as rocks, but really really really good at repetition:-). permalink fedilink source parent [–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Easy, think about who decides whether or not they're correct. Again, humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago For now... except managers don't want to actually think, yet do want to be in control of even the tiniest aspects of every single fucking thing (see e.g. Boeing planes literally falling out of the sky, against the wishes of the engineers bc the managers figured that this way of skipping maintenance and then covering that truth from federal safety commissioners was "better"... for the sake of their profits ofc), so how soon until their unthinking need to "feel like" they are in control leads them to using computers to control the people, without even those humans who hold the admin rights ever making any conscious decisions? I suspect that a thinking computer may be correct far more often than an unthinking human.:-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Software Engineer, I ask myself that question several times per day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago Bc chips are as dumb as rocks, but really really really good at repetition:-). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago Bc chips are as dumb as rocks, but really really really good at repetition:-). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Easy, think about who decides whether or not they're correct. Again, humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago For now... except managers don't want to actually think, yet do want to be in control of even the tiniest aspects of every single fucking thing (see e.g. Boeing planes literally falling out of the sky, against the wishes of the engineers bc the managers figured that this way of skipping maintenance and then covering that truth from federal safety commissioners was "better"... for the sake of their profits ofc), so how soon until their unthinking need to "feel like" they are in control leads them to using computers to control the people, without even those humans who hold the admin rights ever making any conscious decisions? I suspect that a thinking computer may be correct far more often than an unthinking human.:-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago For now... except managers don't want to actually think, yet do want to be in control of even the tiniest aspects of every single fucking thing (see e.g. Boeing planes literally falling out of the sky, against the wishes of the engineers bc the managers figured that this way of skipping maintenance and then covering that truth from federal safety commissioners was "better"... for the sake of their profits ofc), so how soon until their unthinking need to "feel like" they are in control leads them to using computers to control the people, without even those humans who hold the admin rights ever making any conscious decisions? I suspect that a thinking computer may be correct far more often than an unthinking human.:-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* And thank goodness it's not nearly impossible to convince a computer that it isn't correct when you don't have admin rights. sudo you're a fucking idiot, computer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, president of IBM permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I cannot stomach much of it, but it is fun to go back and watch older media related to technology - e.g. the six million dollar man has like spinning tape disks, when computers were entire-room affairs. So he was right, using the definition at that time, though there was also so much potential for more. Also it is funny to hear them say that technology would literally make the six million dollar man "better", not just "well again" or "he will have side effects but his capabilities will be far above the norm" or some such. One glance at Google these days, or a Boeing plane, does not inspire me to think of the word "better" than what came before even from those exact companies. Technology moves forward, but I am not so sure that the new is always "better" than the old. It was an interesting bias that they had though, during the cold war and after the moon landing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "We can improve him." And I believe tape storage hadn't even been invented when Watson said that. It may have even been pre-magnetic tape entirely because I believe he said it before a computer was actually invented (unless you count Babbage's difference engine). It was a prediction of what the world would need if computers existed if I remember correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago And it makes total sense, bc the idea of a "PC" hadn't been tried yet, bc the technology simply wasn't yet up to the task. And yeah I think I remember the same thing about that quote, though who knows:-P. Anyway, it was hard for computers to be wrong about simple arithmetic operations, but they've come a long way since then, and AIs are now wrong more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering we now have a "CD" that stores 125TB of data ( https://www.livescience.com/technology/electronics/new-petabit-scale-optical-disc-can-store-as-much-information-as-15000-dvds ). Not all older tech are necessarily worse. An LTO-9 tape can also store 18TB of data per tape. It's still sold today and great for archival. Other cheaper, less error prone tech usually gets mass market penetration. But I am happy that massive storage niche tech is still there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah tape is niche, but still serves its particular purpose well!:-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I cannot stomach much of it, but it is fun to go back and watch older media related to technology - e.g. the six million dollar man has like spinning tape disks, when computers were entire-room affairs. So he was right, using the definition at that time, though there was also so much potential for more. Also it is funny to hear them say that technology would literally make the six million dollar man "better", not just "well again" or "he will have side effects but his capabilities will be far above the norm" or some such. One glance at Google these days, or a Boeing plane, does not inspire me to think of the word "better" than what came before even from those exact companies. Technology moves forward, but I am not so sure that the new is always "better" than the old. It was an interesting bias that they had though, during the cold war and after the moon landing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "We can improve him." And I believe tape storage hadn't even been invented when Watson said that. It may have even been pre-magnetic tape entirely because I believe he said it before a computer was actually invented (unless you count Babbage's difference engine). It was a prediction of what the world would need if computers existed if I remember correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago And it makes total sense, bc the idea of a "PC" hadn't been tried yet, bc the technology simply wasn't yet up to the task. And yeah I think I remember the same thing about that quote, though who knows:-P. Anyway, it was hard for computers to be wrong about simple arithmetic operations, but they've come a long way since then, and AIs are now wrong more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering we now have a "CD" that stores 125TB of data ( https://www.livescience.com/technology/electronics/new-petabit-scale-optical-disc-can-store-as-much-information-as-15000-dvds ). Not all older tech are necessarily worse. An LTO-9 tape can also store 18TB of data per tape. It's still sold today and great for archival. Other cheaper, less error prone tech usually gets mass market penetration. But I am happy that massive storage niche tech is still there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah tape is niche, but still serves its particular purpose well!:-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "We can improve him." And I believe tape storage hadn't even been invented when Watson said that. It may have even been pre-magnetic tape entirely because I believe he said it before a computer was actually invented (unless you count Babbage's difference engine). It was a prediction of what the world would need if computers existed if I remember correctly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago And it makes total sense, bc the idea of a "PC" hadn't been tried yet, bc the technology simply wasn't yet up to the task. And yeah I think I remember the same thing about that quote, though who knows:-P. Anyway, it was hard for computers to be wrong about simple arithmetic operations, but they've come a long way since then, and AIs are now wrong more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago And it makes total sense, bc the idea of a "PC" hadn't been tried yet, bc the technology simply wasn't yet up to the task. And yeah I think I remember the same thing about that quote, though who knows:-P. Anyway, it was hard for computers to be wrong about simple arithmetic operations, but they've come a long way since then, and AIs are now wrong more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering we now have a "CD" that stores 125TB of data ( https://www.livescience.com/technology/electronics/new-petabit-scale-optical-disc-can-store-as-much-information-as-15000-dvds ). Not all older tech are necessarily worse. An LTO-9 tape can also store 18TB of data per tape. It's still sold today and great for archival. Other cheaper, less error prone tech usually gets mass market penetration. But I am happy that massive storage niche tech is still there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah tape is niche, but still serves its particular purpose well!:-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah tape is niche, but still serves its particular purpose well!:-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) True. 12h to write the whole 18TB makes it a bit impractical for stuff other than backups. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I imagine the write-once, re-write-never part also may limit its applicability too:-). Then again, for a purpose where the data doesn't need to be constantly changing, like storing a TV show or movie, possibly even music if someone wants to listen to albums rather than randomized songs, it could offer a lot of practical utility to many people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh you can totally erase and reuse the tapes. Depending on the tape software you can also rewrite parts or replace older files with incremental updates. It just really takes a while of rewinding. And the noise it makes is kinda retro... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Hehe, I can just imagine that in my mind...wrrr.....:-P permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's an older one but they are still like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX2o1JYgQg permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago As a wise person said once, "Not all older tech are necessarily worse.":-) It's just that capitalism wants to sell you what they want you to buy, rather than what you truly want:-(. I mean, capitalism made this too, but I am saying that I think that is why people are constantly pushing for the newest and latest thing: b/c if you already have old thing, then they want you to buy new thing too, even if old thing was perfectly fine for what purpose you were using it for. :-| permalink fedilink source parent