▲ 230 ▼ Someone gets killed by a car, so they restrict e-bikes. (www.centraloregondaily.com) submitted 2 years ago by hanke@feddit.nu to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13118199 (Title shamelessly stolen from this comment in the crossposted !micromobility thread.)
[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) Cyclists should have safe infrastructure instead of riding with vehicle traffic. Don't try to shift the responsibility. I'm saying that as an experienced cyclist as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reassure6869@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not having safe infrastructure doesn't make bikers any less dangerous to be around. My specific citation is the bay area, other places I've lived have not had the sheer quantity of bikers (and drivers) with a death wish/complete lack of spatial awareness. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Any sources to support your claim? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theroff@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, the sidewalk on the six lane stroad near me seems much safer than the fast, congested road with lane-hopping cars and low visibility. I get it, and I use sidewalks sparingly, but it really is circumstantial (it's legal to ride a footpath where I live). For example, slow riding a footpath is much safer than fast riding a footpath because you have more time to react to cars entering/exiting driveways. If you're riding somewhere nearby that's actually quite a nice experience. But if you are trying to get somewhere more than a kilometre away, slow footpath riding would obviously slow you down a lot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reassure6869@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not having safe infrastructure doesn't make bikers any less dangerous to be around. My specific citation is the bay area, other places I've lived have not had the sheer quantity of bikers (and drivers) with a death wish/complete lack of spatial awareness. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Any sources to support your claim? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theroff@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, the sidewalk on the six lane stroad near me seems much safer than the fast, congested road with lane-hopping cars and low visibility. I get it, and I use sidewalks sparingly, but it really is circumstantial (it's legal to ride a footpath where I live). For example, slow riding a footpath is much safer than fast riding a footpath because you have more time to react to cars entering/exiting driveways. If you're riding somewhere nearby that's actually quite a nice experience. But if you are trying to get somewhere more than a kilometre away, slow footpath riding would obviously slow you down a lot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Any sources to support your claim? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theroff@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, the sidewalk on the six lane stroad near me seems much safer than the fast, congested road with lane-hopping cars and low visibility. I get it, and I use sidewalks sparingly, but it really is circumstantial (it's legal to ride a footpath where I live). For example, slow riding a footpath is much safer than fast riding a footpath because you have more time to react to cars entering/exiting driveways. If you're riding somewhere nearby that's actually quite a nice experience. But if you are trying to get somewhere more than a kilometre away, slow footpath riding would obviously slow you down a lot. permalink fedilink source parent