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The New Audi A3 Is Amess With In-Car Subscriptions (www.motor1.com)
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So far there's subscriptions for cruise control, adaptive beams, various navigation options, apple/google integration and my favorite, dual-zone climate.

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[–] 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Just buy the audi and come to your local electrician, he will turn on all the functions, id rather die than let this shit happen. Tesla heated seates need subscription? Heres a 20$ dongle to turn it on forever. Hyundai remote start subscription? Here take this 80$ remote to start it forever. Bmw fake exhaust sound onley comes with M sports pack and costs over a thousand? Give me 10$ and ill turn that on and turn on everything else that is hidden.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As much as I'd love for people to do this, there's probably a ton of software safeguards to prevent this. Even if you'd get around it, those greedy fuckers will undoubtedly void your warranty. And somehow that's legal too.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago*

    Yes there is a lot of safeguards, like safeguards so people wouldnt steal cars, but guess what, cars get stolen. Plus its easier to turn on functions that you want than steal a car, for audi MLB platform just reflash the MMI to an older version, unlock the hidden menu and turn on all the stuff you need. For this new audi I give half a year and there will be a version to unlcok everything like every year for the pas 20 years.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Maybe? With my Mazda, activating the navigation system was a matter of spending $10 on an SD card with everything preloaded onto it. Disabling infotainment warnings, reenabling the touchscreen even when the car’s moving, and even adding CarPlay to a car that didn’t support it was just a matter of a USB stick that tweaked all those things.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That remote start actually relies on an external service, so paying for it makes sense. Evetything else though? Yeah, fuck em.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Remote start trough an app is not possible to crack, but if you add a remote control like you have for a garage than it just sends a signal to start the car and doesnt use any services.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean you could, the real problem is it's probably not legal for someone to make kits to replace what you would need to.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    100% legal, you can loose your keys and go to a lockpicker and he would make you new keys and add them to your car. Its not legal id you do this to another car in the night and drive away with the car to sell it 😂

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Perhaps, but that's still a little different than selling a kit that replaces the factory equipment to replace the app and would depend on how exactly it was accomplished, after all those infotainment systems have license agreements, while I may be allowed to modify the software for my own head unit, providing it to others probably isn't allowed, especially if I'm making a profit. So while it's the kind of thing that should be legal, I'm guessing if anyone started selling kits to replace the dealer app with a third party one they'd be going to court.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Your talking like you cant buy a third party HU and put it in your car with a third party app. Nobody gives a fuck unless you want to have a service guarantee, but those now last 1-2 years and basicly doesnt repair anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Just buy the audi and come to your local electrician, he will turn on all the functions, id rather die than let this shit happen.

    And then Audi gets the government to prosecute you for exercising your property rights "violating the DMCA by circumventing DRM."

    The concept here is "ownership for me, serfdom for thee."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nope, they have no power to do this, than they would prosecute the people who create tools to do diagnostics, add keys, program modules. They have zero ground on this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess you've been living under a rock and haven't noticed the persecutions of folks making video game console modchips, John Deere fighting with farmers over who's allowed to repair tractors (including an MOU that the media claims is "kind of" a win for famers, but nevertheless asserts that "modification of Embedded Software" is "illegal infringement" of John Deere's intellectual property [sic]), etc.

    Sure, nobody's gone to prison for "jailbreaking" (which is already an absurdity that should never have become necessary in the first place) a car yet, but the DMCA Anti-Circumvention Clause is still the law of the land and unless that changes, it's only a matter of time.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Because automotive industry is so big and wanted to do the same thing like other industrys, this law had to be passed RIGHT TO REPAIR. After this some xompanys like Jaguar, Ford, Peugeot put theyr programs for free online for everyone to use to repair their cars. Other made them payed but it was not a big sum. Now going in to 2015 when subscription stuff was picking up, we onley have Jaguar free. Others not onley made them more expensive but now you have to provide information about who you are and what you work, some even made you pay 15$ for 24h to let you connect to one vin number and just delete faults. But still you could and still can do anything you want to your car, Ive never heard anyone who got in trouble for moding theyr car. Expet when making changes to the odometer or the exhaust system/ eco system but thats another league. There are also standarts that dont let you change any light outside your vehicle but thats about safety. But talking about seat heating, remote start or other comfort functions, unless you want to have a gusrantee from your shop, nobody GIVES A FUCK what you do to your car.

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