▲ 740 ▼ Millennials, Gen-Z Want Original Movies and TV, Not Remakes — Survey (www.indiewire.com) submitted 2 years ago by GreenEngineering3475@lemmy.world to c/movies@lemmy.world 169 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is incorrect; take it directly from the movie's editor, Eddie Hamilton ACE, on how the VFX CGIs were done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE1pOMpQvbw You can see at the 4 minutes mark where the actual jets in the movie were just stand ins, and VFX artists are told to use CGI to reskin them with the jets in the final movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Video evidence is far more convincing than someone's say-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, if that’s how you win an argument, I don’t read IGN. But for those who are curious, in the first posted video he talks about a timeline walkthrough that the editor did. All the jets are CGI covers over F-14s painted grey with lighting markers, except the F-18s. HOWEVER, there were only ever 1 or 2 F-18s in the air, so when you see a squadron of them, the others are CGI. So yes, there were some real jets, but that wasn’t the argument you made. You said the film was done practically, which is not true. Even if you have 2/4 jets really in the air, that’s not “practical” and still counts as CGI. And I can see where you got this opinion, the news outlets at the time and all interviews spouted “NO CGI!!” Because it is good marketing, but it’s not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is incorrect; take it directly from the movie's editor, Eddie Hamilton ACE, on how the VFX CGIs were done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE1pOMpQvbw You can see at the 4 minutes mark where the actual jets in the movie were just stand ins, and VFX artists are told to use CGI to reskin them with the jets in the final movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Video evidence is far more convincing than someone's say-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, if that’s how you win an argument, I don’t read IGN. But for those who are curious, in the first posted video he talks about a timeline walkthrough that the editor did. All the jets are CGI covers over F-14s painted grey with lighting markers, except the F-18s. HOWEVER, there were only ever 1 or 2 F-18s in the air, so when you see a squadron of them, the others are CGI. So yes, there were some real jets, but that wasn’t the argument you made. You said the film was done practically, which is not true. Even if you have 2/4 jets really in the air, that’s not “practical” and still counts as CGI. And I can see where you got this opinion, the news outlets at the time and all interviews spouted “NO CGI!!” Because it is good marketing, but it’s not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Video evidence is far more convincing than someone's say-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is? permalink fedilink source parent [–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, if that’s how you win an argument, I don’t read IGN. But for those who are curious, in the first posted video he talks about a timeline walkthrough that the editor did. All the jets are CGI covers over F-14s painted grey with lighting markers, except the F-18s. HOWEVER, there were only ever 1 or 2 F-18s in the air, so when you see a squadron of them, the others are CGI. So yes, there were some real jets, but that wasn’t the argument you made. You said the film was done practically, which is not true. Even if you have 2/4 jets really in the air, that’s not “practical” and still counts as CGI. And I can see where you got this opinion, the news outlets at the time and all interviews spouted “NO CGI!!” Because it is good marketing, but it’s not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Video evidence is far more convincing than someone's say-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) In a comment thread about CGI and VFX, you really want to talk about how accurate the video is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well, if that’s how you win an argument, I don’t read IGN. But for those who are curious, in the first posted video he talks about a timeline walkthrough that the editor did. All the jets are CGI covers over F-14s painted grey with lighting markers, except the F-18s. HOWEVER, there were only ever 1 or 2 F-18s in the air, so when you see a squadron of them, the others are CGI. So yes, there were some real jets, but that wasn’t the argument you made. You said the film was done practically, which is not true. Even if you have 2/4 jets really in the air, that’s not “practical” and still counts as CGI. And I can see where you got this opinion, the news outlets at the time and all interviews spouted “NO CGI!!” Because it is good marketing, but it’s not true. permalink fedilink source parent