▲ 561 ▼ Joe Biden suddenly leads Donald Trump in multiple polls (www.newsweek.com) submitted 2 years ago by Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 304 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] buzz@lemmy.world -58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls. Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. Also, calling Biden and Trump "garbage candidates" is reductive and just plain wrong. We saw what Trump did for 4 years, and we've read Project 2025. Biden is the only ethical vote. But go off, king. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls this is storytelling permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. then how does biden plan to earn that vote? permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago calling Biden and Trump “garbage candidates” is reductive and just plain wrong no, they are both bad people permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Biden is the only ethical vote. it's unethical to vote for biden... but go off, king permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Voting for Biden is not ethical. He's actively supporting genocide. I'm still going to vote for him because he's better than the other bastard, but don't fool yourself into thinking he's innocent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rfk is pro israel so go green party in that case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] buzz@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago He's also anti-abortion, anti-vax, anti-pandemic protocols, and completely insane. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Motto of the modern day voting electorate permalink fedilink source parent [+] Katana314@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (2 children) As long as you're still voting for someone, I'm good with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Useless votes. Unless we change how our votes are counted, those votes are no better than not voting, especially if the main goal is to protest to top 2 nominees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Unless we change how our votes are counted Ask every politician you ever speak to about ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* For the record, I oppose their choice of candidate. I think we’re better off encouraging voting as a whole, than encouraging people to fully give in to the two party system - even if I’m convinced by those arguments and plan to vote for Biden, I know other people have other perspectives and priorities. On the other hand, we KNOW for sure that people who oppose voting as a whole are Russian bots or completely reprehensible bastards, and that is a very easy sentiment to stand by. We also know that there is one party that wins more often when more people decide to vote. I’ll let you guess which one. I’d also say for future elections, putting more and more votes on third parties can warn the two parties that a pure message of “At least I’m not HITLER” is not viable enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) I realise the US uses FPTP, but can someone explain to me why this comment is being downvoted? I'd think participating in the democratic process would be considered a good thing regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not as bad as refusing to participate, or voting for the downfall of democracy, but I don't think it crosses into the threshold of "good". Just "useless". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Legitimate question: is there no benefit to voting for a party if they won't win? Do they get any future election funding or... anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Despite what most people say, the only want you to vote if you're voting for the person they support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls. Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. Also, calling Biden and Trump "garbage candidates" is reductive and just plain wrong. We saw what Trump did for 4 years, and we've read Project 2025. Biden is the only ethical vote. But go off, king. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls this is storytelling permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. then how does biden plan to earn that vote? permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago calling Biden and Trump “garbage candidates” is reductive and just plain wrong no, they are both bad people permalink fedilink source parent [–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Biden is the only ethical vote. it's unethical to vote for biden... but go off, king permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Voting for Biden is not ethical. He's actively supporting genocide. I'm still going to vote for him because he's better than the other bastard, but don't fool yourself into thinking he's innocent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls this is storytelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. then how does biden plan to earn that vote? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago calling Biden and Trump “garbage candidates” is reductive and just plain wrong no, they are both bad people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Biden is the only ethical vote. it's unethical to vote for biden... but go off, king permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Voting for Biden is not ethical. He's actively supporting genocide. I'm still going to vote for him because he's better than the other bastard, but don't fool yourself into thinking he's innocent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rfk is pro israel so go green party in that case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] buzz@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago He's also anti-abortion, anti-vax, anti-pandemic protocols, and completely insane. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Motto of the modern day voting electorate permalink fedilink source parent
[+] buzz@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago He's also anti-abortion, anti-vax, anti-pandemic protocols, and completely insane. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Motto of the modern day voting electorate permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago He's also anti-abortion, anti-vax, anti-pandemic protocols, and completely insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Motto of the modern day voting electorate permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Katana314@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (2 children) As long as you're still voting for someone, I'm good with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Useless votes. Unless we change how our votes are counted, those votes are no better than not voting, especially if the main goal is to protest to top 2 nominees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Unless we change how our votes are counted Ask every politician you ever speak to about ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* For the record, I oppose their choice of candidate. I think we’re better off encouraging voting as a whole, than encouraging people to fully give in to the two party system - even if I’m convinced by those arguments and plan to vote for Biden, I know other people have other perspectives and priorities. On the other hand, we KNOW for sure that people who oppose voting as a whole are Russian bots or completely reprehensible bastards, and that is a very easy sentiment to stand by. We also know that there is one party that wins more often when more people decide to vote. I’ll let you guess which one. I’d also say for future elections, putting more and more votes on third parties can warn the two parties that a pure message of “At least I’m not HITLER” is not viable enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) I realise the US uses FPTP, but can someone explain to me why this comment is being downvoted? I'd think participating in the democratic process would be considered a good thing regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not as bad as refusing to participate, or voting for the downfall of democracy, but I don't think it crosses into the threshold of "good". Just "useless". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Legitimate question: is there no benefit to voting for a party if they won't win? Do they get any future election funding or... anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Despite what most people say, the only want you to vote if you're voting for the person they support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Useless votes. Unless we change how our votes are counted, those votes are no better than not voting, especially if the main goal is to protest to top 2 nominees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Unless we change how our votes are counted Ask every politician you ever speak to about ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* For the record, I oppose their choice of candidate. I think we’re better off encouraging voting as a whole, than encouraging people to fully give in to the two party system - even if I’m convinced by those arguments and plan to vote for Biden, I know other people have other perspectives and priorities. On the other hand, we KNOW for sure that people who oppose voting as a whole are Russian bots or completely reprehensible bastards, and that is a very easy sentiment to stand by. We also know that there is one party that wins more often when more people decide to vote. I’ll let you guess which one. I’d also say for future elections, putting more and more votes on third parties can warn the two parties that a pure message of “At least I’m not HITLER” is not viable enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Unless we change how our votes are counted Ask every politician you ever speak to about ranked choice voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* For the record, I oppose their choice of candidate. I think we’re better off encouraging voting as a whole, than encouraging people to fully give in to the two party system - even if I’m convinced by those arguments and plan to vote for Biden, I know other people have other perspectives and priorities. On the other hand, we KNOW for sure that people who oppose voting as a whole are Russian bots or completely reprehensible bastards, and that is a very easy sentiment to stand by. We also know that there is one party that wins more often when more people decide to vote. I’ll let you guess which one. I’d also say for future elections, putting more and more votes on third parties can warn the two parties that a pure message of “At least I’m not HITLER” is not viable enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) I realise the US uses FPTP, but can someone explain to me why this comment is being downvoted? I'd think participating in the democratic process would be considered a good thing regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not as bad as refusing to participate, or voting for the downfall of democracy, but I don't think it crosses into the threshold of "good". Just "useless". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Legitimate question: is there no benefit to voting for a party if they won't win? Do they get any future election funding or... anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Despite what most people say, the only want you to vote if you're voting for the person they support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not as bad as refusing to participate, or voting for the downfall of democracy, but I don't think it crosses into the threshold of "good". Just "useless". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Legitimate question: is there no benefit to voting for a party if they won't win? Do they get any future election funding or... anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Legitimate question: is there no benefit to voting for a party if they won't win? Do they get any future election funding or... anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If a third party gets at least 5% of the vote, they get a small amount of the official presidential campaign funds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago Despite what most people say, the only want you to vote if you're voting for the person they support. permalink fedilink source parent