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Solving the Trolley Problem, the 🦅 🇺🇲 🦅 American® Way™ 🦅🇺🇲🦅 (fedia.io)
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[+] -58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I unironically will.

and you will too, once you get away from your edgy "America bad" phase.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s not edgy, it’s realistic and uncomfortable.

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  • [+] -32 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Literally the only Force that isn't worse than the US is the EU. As long as they don't want to step up and take the Mantle, the US "defending its Interests" and spreading democratic Values across the globe is the best Thing that can happen.

    Do you think that the US defending its interests in Ukraine and helping them is a bad Idea? Or that defending their Interests in Taiwan and helping them is a bad Idea? Or did you think that the US ousting the Taliban and giving Girls an Education and Future was a bad Idea? Or that defending global Shipping from Houthi-Terrorism is a bad Idea?

    stop with this edgy "America Bad" Mentality. It is not representative of our world.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Weren't the Afghan Taliban backed by the US in a proxy war against the Soviets?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, the above poster is a very patriotic idiot who doesn’t know anything about their own country. Not entirely their fault, however. America bad, after all.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know a lot about my own Country. I could tell you about our direct Democracy, the Bundesbrief of 1291, the Rütlischwur, the Sondebundkrieg, the Reasons we didn't join the EEA or the EU.

    Or I could just tell you that I'm not a US-Citizen at all and you're the one who draws conclusions off of nothing 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    ahhh yes, the Soviets, the bringer of liberty and happiness. Funny how every Country that was Occupied by them talks about how it was the worst time they experienced and how they had / still have much higher suicide rates than other Countries. Truly, how could we (the free World) have opposed them?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    This is somewhat of a myth by exageration, the US supported the mujahideen, people seem to equate the Taliban and the mujahideen but only a small subset of them became the Taliban, a good number of them would become the Northen Alliance who would resist the Taliban. And it must be said while the US had been the masters of imperialism lately that's no excuse for Soviet imperialism

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Unfortunately, it's always "defending US interests" which is the problem. Historically, US interests have been counter to strong local independent governments. The US has interests in low cost labor and natural resources. There are still a lot of people in the US gov. that are only incentivised to do the right thing if they get a major perk or kick back from doing it. I like to think that we're getting more progressive, and stepping away from the abhorrent shit our grandparents did to South/Central America, but then we get shit like trump withholding support from Ukraine unless they are willing to smear his political rivals. Then it becomes clear that there is still a very influential "old guard" in the government that prevents the US from actually defending the welfare of the many from the benefit of the few.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    Do you think that the US defending its interests in Ukraine and helping them is a bad Idea?

    Yes

    Or that defending their Interests in Taiwan and helping them is a bad Idea?

    Yes

    Or did you think that the US ousting the Taliban and giving Girls an Education and Future was a bad Idea?

    lol how did that work out

    Or that defending global Shipping from Houthi-Terrorism is a bad Idea?

    You mean defending Israeli shipping from sanctions, in order to support the genocide in occupied Palestine? What kind of answer did you even expect to this one?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not a phase, it's based in reality. Take Vietnam and Iraq for example and the civilian casuilities that came out of that. And oh of course we lied about weapons of mass destruction.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Or the many, many coups that the USA was directly or indirectly involved in, like in nearly every South and Central American country (Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Haiti, Panama, etc), or the "humanitarian intervention" of Yugoslavia, or any entry in that very big list of atrocities they committed.

    Just because there are "worse" countries forcefully imposing their wants, that doesn't make USA good, something that other poster fails to acknowledge.

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