▲ 543 ▼ Mitch McConnell’s billionaire sister-in-law Angela Chao made panicked last call before dying in ‘completely submerged’ Tesla on Texas ranch: report (nypost.com) submitted 2 years ago by Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 296 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] eran_morad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) New Teslas have laminated glass, not tempered glass. It does not shatter. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) WTF, how can they just make a change like that, and it get approved to be on the road? Youtube comment, Tesla that crashed into a pole, it was on fire, and the driver was trapped behind the laminated glass. Scary situation. The first in crew that responded had a firefighter try to break the glass with a conventional window punch device, that didn't work. Then he tried smashing it with some forcible entry tools, that didn't work either. The driver ended up dying. It took 45 mins to extinguish the flames and 15 mins to get the car doors open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've just learned that laminated glass is now mandatory across all models since 2020. https://lifelinerescuetools.com/blog/3397/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is laminated glass why my rented chevy bolt has so many pits? Car’s only got 7k miles on it, but when I drive toward the sun it’s like driving into a glitter storm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Makes me think of the supposed bullet-proof cyber truck glass... Odds are much more likely you'll be trying to escape your car than be under a hail of gunfire lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago This is apparently a common thing across car manufacturers now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Plague_Doctor@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Apparently not in door gap, trunk lid pours water into car, discharged battery can't open rear passenger doors, Teslas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago death by own car is probably the pinnacle of poor UX. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But everyone that gets in my car for the first time manages to find it if I forget to tell them to press the button with the minus sign. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those aren’t glass breakers, and you probably can’t shatter the glass with those. Car windows are incredibly strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://carseatblog.com/38120/mythbusters-vehicle-headrests-are-meant-to-break-vehicle-windows/ Yeah, a fully closed car side window is extremely strong. However if you're able to crack it just a bit it is far easier to break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but it's way harder under water. I punched a window and broke it back in the day, but that was a junk car from the 80s we were destroying. And I was outside of it with all the room in the world. Trying to do it while seated inside would have been impossible, and underwater all that pressure against the other side spread out equally makes it really umpossible. It's basically a giant cushion that absorbs and distributes the force. If you do break it, all that water pressure is going to push it straight in your face, and chances are you're just going to let the water in, but not create a whole big enough to climb thru. Certainly not u til your car is full of water and pressure equalizes. If you're worried about this enough to carry a glass breaker, take a page from the Kia boys and make sure it's ceramic. Even steel with a point is going to be difficult. But ceramic will shatter it with almost no effort. Gotta keep on bipping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago New Teslas have shatter-proof laminated glass. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent [–] JanoRis@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago isn't the point of breaking the door window under water to let water in, so you can open the car door once the pressure difference is equilibrated? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) New Teslas have laminated glass, not tempered glass. It does not shatter. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) WTF, how can they just make a change like that, and it get approved to be on the road? Youtube comment, Tesla that crashed into a pole, it was on fire, and the driver was trapped behind the laminated glass. Scary situation. The first in crew that responded had a firefighter try to break the glass with a conventional window punch device, that didn't work. Then he tried smashing it with some forcible entry tools, that didn't work either. The driver ended up dying. It took 45 mins to extinguish the flames and 15 mins to get the car doors open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've just learned that laminated glass is now mandatory across all models since 2020. https://lifelinerescuetools.com/blog/3397/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is laminated glass why my rented chevy bolt has so many pits? Car’s only got 7k miles on it, but when I drive toward the sun it’s like driving into a glitter storm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Makes me think of the supposed bullet-proof cyber truck glass... Odds are much more likely you'll be trying to escape your car than be under a hail of gunfire lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago This is apparently a common thing across car manufacturers now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) WTF, how can they just make a change like that, and it get approved to be on the road? Youtube comment, Tesla that crashed into a pole, it was on fire, and the driver was trapped behind the laminated glass. Scary situation. The first in crew that responded had a firefighter try to break the glass with a conventional window punch device, that didn't work. Then he tried smashing it with some forcible entry tools, that didn't work either. The driver ended up dying. It took 45 mins to extinguish the flames and 15 mins to get the car doors open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've just learned that laminated glass is now mandatory across all models since 2020. https://lifelinerescuetools.com/blog/3397/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is laminated glass why my rented chevy bolt has so many pits? Car’s only got 7k miles on it, but when I drive toward the sun it’s like driving into a glitter storm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Makes me think of the supposed bullet-proof cyber truck glass... Odds are much more likely you'll be trying to escape your car than be under a hail of gunfire lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago This is apparently a common thing across car manufacturers now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've just learned that laminated glass is now mandatory across all models since 2020. https://lifelinerescuetools.com/blog/3397/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is laminated glass why my rented chevy bolt has so many pits? Car’s only got 7k miles on it, but when I drive toward the sun it’s like driving into a glitter storm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Is laminated glass why my rented chevy bolt has so many pits? Car’s only got 7k miles on it, but when I drive toward the sun it’s like driving into a glitter storm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. But windshields have been laminated glass since forever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Your previous comment stated it was 2020 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheChurn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Windshields have been laminated for decades. Side windows were tempered glass for decades, and since 2020 are mandated to be laminated glass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago You may one day learn the difference between MAY and MUST. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Makes me think of the supposed bullet-proof cyber truck glass... Odds are much more likely you'll be trying to escape your car than be under a hail of gunfire lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago This is apparently a common thing across car manufacturers now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Plague_Doctor@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Apparently not in door gap, trunk lid pours water into car, discharged battery can't open rear passenger doors, Teslas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago death by own car is probably the pinnacle of poor UX. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But everyone that gets in my car for the first time manages to find it if I forget to tell them to press the button with the minus sign. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago death by own car is probably the pinnacle of poor UX. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But everyone that gets in my car for the first time manages to find it if I forget to tell them to press the button with the minus sign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago death by own car is probably the pinnacle of poor UX. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) But everyone that gets in my car for the first time manages to find it if I forget to tell them to press the button with the minus sign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Those aren’t glass breakers, and you probably can’t shatter the glass with those. Car windows are incredibly strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://carseatblog.com/38120/mythbusters-vehicle-headrests-are-meant-to-break-vehicle-windows/ Yeah, a fully closed car side window is extremely strong. However if you're able to crack it just a bit it is far easier to break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but it's way harder under water. I punched a window and broke it back in the day, but that was a junk car from the 80s we were destroying. And I was outside of it with all the room in the world. Trying to do it while seated inside would have been impossible, and underwater all that pressure against the other side spread out equally makes it really umpossible. It's basically a giant cushion that absorbs and distributes the force. If you do break it, all that water pressure is going to push it straight in your face, and chances are you're just going to let the water in, but not create a whole big enough to climb thru. Certainly not u til your car is full of water and pressure equalizes. If you're worried about this enough to carry a glass breaker, take a page from the Kia boys and make sure it's ceramic. Even steel with a point is going to be difficult. But ceramic will shatter it with almost no effort. Gotta keep on bipping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago New Teslas have shatter-proof laminated glass. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent [–] JanoRis@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago isn't the point of breaking the door window under water to let water in, so you can open the car door once the pressure difference is equilibrated? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://carseatblog.com/38120/mythbusters-vehicle-headrests-are-meant-to-break-vehicle-windows/ Yeah, a fully closed car side window is extremely strong. However if you're able to crack it just a bit it is far easier to break. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but it's way harder under water. I punched a window and broke it back in the day, but that was a junk car from the 80s we were destroying. And I was outside of it with all the room in the world. Trying to do it while seated inside would have been impossible, and underwater all that pressure against the other side spread out equally makes it really umpossible. It's basically a giant cushion that absorbs and distributes the force. If you do break it, all that water pressure is going to push it straight in your face, and chances are you're just going to let the water in, but not create a whole big enough to climb thru. Certainly not u til your car is full of water and pressure equalizes. If you're worried about this enough to carry a glass breaker, take a page from the Kia boys and make sure it's ceramic. Even steel with a point is going to be difficult. But ceramic will shatter it with almost no effort. Gotta keep on bipping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago New Teslas have shatter-proof laminated glass. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent [–] JanoRis@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago isn't the point of breaking the door window under water to let water in, so you can open the car door once the pressure difference is equilibrated? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, but it's way harder under water. I punched a window and broke it back in the day, but that was a junk car from the 80s we were destroying. And I was outside of it with all the room in the world. Trying to do it while seated inside would have been impossible, and underwater all that pressure against the other side spread out equally makes it really umpossible. It's basically a giant cushion that absorbs and distributes the force. If you do break it, all that water pressure is going to push it straight in your face, and chances are you're just going to let the water in, but not create a whole big enough to climb thru. Certainly not u til your car is full of water and pressure equalizes. If you're worried about this enough to carry a glass breaker, take a page from the Kia boys and make sure it's ceramic. Even steel with a point is going to be difficult. But ceramic will shatter it with almost no effort. Gotta keep on bipping permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago New Teslas have shatter-proof laminated glass. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent [–] JanoRis@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago isn't the point of breaking the door window under water to let water in, so you can open the car door once the pressure difference is equilibrated? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago New Teslas have shatter-proof laminated glass. https://youtu.be/6tnEDH1HfD0?t=378 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JanoRis@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago isn't the point of breaking the door window under water to let water in, so you can open the car door once the pressure difference is equilibrated? permalink fedilink source parent