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"They need us. We don't need them:" The fall of Twitter is making the trolls and grifters desperate (www.salon.com)
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[–] 23 points 3 years ago (2 children)

OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

I'm not a huge OpenAI fan, but it's not yet been determined that they acted illegally. I believe the matter is still being pursued in court.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think people are too focused on the scraping, which is clearly not illegal, but is what the roch people who own the websites are hollering about because they wanted to make money off of selling the posted content they did not actually own

    Open AI's implementation of image creation in the style of a particular artist using copyrighted works is going to be the big outcome.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's not illegal for a person to learn things online. That's one of the original purposes of the "world wide web" when it was opened to universities.

    It is illegal to copy someone's brand and use it to make money. These chat bots are literally charging people to take input like "write a story in this author's style" and outputting a story that is a poor mimicry. The main problem is they are charging money based on someone else's trademark. Not that they write a similar story.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    This feels like Andy Warhol's art combined with TPB's court processing.

    Andy earned money buy making art using other's art and TPB sold ads while telling you where you could aquire content illegaly, while never actually hosting any of the content.

    Where does the line go? If I write a book the is similar to someone else's book, is that illegal? If I use a tool to help me write? Which tools are allowed and which are not?

    It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Immorally then.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    but that something trained on public material is privately owned.

    Is that really a problem? Is a create something new based on public knowledge, should I not be able to profit from it?

    I learn to paint from YouTube, should I paint for free now?

    I'll admit that the scope of ChatGPT is MUCH bigger than one person painting.

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