▲ 774 ▼ 64% of Americans say they wouldn’t support Trump: poll (www.marketwatch.com) submitted 2 years ago by btaf45@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 183 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RoccosBasilisk@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point I think 36% of Americans are just trolling permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) no worries mate, luckily the US election system does not have a flaw in it that technically allows 23% of voters to decide the presidency https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn't win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] solstice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's hope the day never comes, but I'm genuinely curious what would happen if that massive imbalance type of scenario occurred. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the Napomovoco whatever it's called will be completed before that would happen. https://youtu.be/tUX-frlNBJY Of course then the US is still stuck in a 2 party system and that shit will need to be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 4 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tUX-frlNBJY Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are absolutely that mouth breathers in the US. A few months ago I drove by a fucking Trump rally that is held weekly out in some rural parking lot in Washington State, sans Trump. I have two neighbors with a let's go Brandon banner plaster to the front of their house. Another guy ran for city council on a platform to mandate all teachers to carry AR-15s at school. There's a lot of bananas bullshit out there still. These people believe that the United States is a failing state and the only way to save it is to kill liberals. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I've never done a poll in my life. This is what I found: NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households. For AmeriSpeak's Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone. The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's how polls work. I'm not sure if you genuinely don't know, but that's just how they are done. You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that's perfectly valid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (2 children) no worries mate, luckily the US election system does not have a flaw in it that technically allows 23% of voters to decide the presidency https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn't win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] solstice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's hope the day never comes, but I'm genuinely curious what would happen if that massive imbalance type of scenario occurred. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the Napomovoco whatever it's called will be completed before that would happen. https://youtu.be/tUX-frlNBJY Of course then the US is still stuck in a 2 party system and that shit will need to be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 4 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tUX-frlNBJY Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn't win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] solstice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Let's hope the day never comes, but I'm genuinely curious what would happen if that massive imbalance type of scenario occurred. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the Napomovoco whatever it's called will be completed before that would happen. https://youtu.be/tUX-frlNBJY Of course then the US is still stuck in a 2 party system and that shit will need to be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 4 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tUX-frlNBJY Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think the Napomovoco whatever it's called will be completed before that would happen. https://youtu.be/tUX-frlNBJY Of course then the US is still stuck in a 2 party system and that shit will need to be fixed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 4 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tUX-frlNBJY Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 4 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/tUX-frlNBJY Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there are absolutely that mouth breathers in the US. A few months ago I drove by a fucking Trump rally that is held weekly out in some rural parking lot in Washington State, sans Trump. I have two neighbors with a let's go Brandon banner plaster to the front of their house. Another guy ran for city council on a platform to mandate all teachers to carry AR-15s at school. There's a lot of bananas bullshit out there still. These people believe that the United States is a failing state and the only way to save it is to kill liberals. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I've never done a poll in my life. This is what I found: NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households. For AmeriSpeak's Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone. The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's how polls work. I'm not sure if you genuinely don't know, but that's just how they are done. You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that's perfectly valid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breadcodes@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's how polls work. I'm not sure if you genuinely don't know, but that's just how they are done. You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that's perfectly valid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I did not know. That's why I said I didn't know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Good on you for looking it up. I've seen so many comments from people who don't look it up and just go "they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit". I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all. permalink fedilink source parent