▲ 823 ▼ Trump Backs Israel Bombarding Gaza: 'Gotta Finish the Problem' (www.rollingstone.com) submitted 2 years ago by Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 501 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Wogi@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (4 children) Tell your kids how you rationalized voting for genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Happily, and I'll teach them how to do the same, when necessary. Unlike your parents apparently. Sometimes there's no good choice, only bad and worse. That's how life works and I'm sad your parents never prepared you for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Sometimes there's no good choice Why? And what conclusions can be drawn about who does and does not hold power in the United States? And what should be done to the United States to correct this? permalink fedilink source parent [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) You mean critical thinking? As soon as it's assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots. But not before. Balancing on the tightrope with hell yawning below, is hardly the time to consider changing your shoelaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Loki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) PS it's French, so not very intuitive in its spelling: Coup d'état permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Right you are permalink fedilink source parent [–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago As soon as it's assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots. None of that will cause any structural change, which is why it is permitted How can we reshape the United States such that genocide is never permitted again? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krono@lemmy.today -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So just keep quiet for the next 6 months as Gaza starves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago That sounds bad. But you have to remember that they're brown and Muslim. Which means it's OK. Fish don't have any feelings, which makes it ok to eat them. Same logic applies here. Remember to vote blue no matter who. And always remember that the United States is a good country filled with moral people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago Letting the most immoral thing happen as you sit on your hands isn't a moral victory on your part. It's a moral failing. If you had the chance to save ten people but one of them had to die, and you choose to let all of them die, you didn't do something moral. You can pretend to yourself that your making a stand that matters, but any rational person see that you are choosing to let more harm be done because you can't stand to do something a little dirty but better. It's weak, not moral. We sometimes have to do the thing we wish we didn't in order to get the best outcome possible. You don't clean your toilet because you enjoy it. You clean it because it needs to be done, and sometimes getting a little dirty is better than letting things get worse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I have kids, I genuinely hope they ask me that. I hope they get angry at me, because the concept of a tacit genocide supporter being the lesser evil is unthinkable. I want them to live in a world where there aren't moral conundrums like that, and the closest they come to them is in gritty video games and academic hypotheticals. I'm willing to support the lesser evil and have blood on my hands so they can live in a better world and condemn me for it. I will be thrilled if that comes to pass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Happily, and I'll teach them how to do the same, when necessary. Unlike your parents apparently. Sometimes there's no good choice, only bad and worse. That's how life works and I'm sad your parents never prepared you for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Sometimes there's no good choice Why? And what conclusions can be drawn about who does and does not hold power in the United States? And what should be done to the United States to correct this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Sometimes there's no good choice Why? And what conclusions can be drawn about who does and does not hold power in the United States? And what should be done to the United States to correct this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (3 children) You mean critical thinking? As soon as it's assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots. But not before. Balancing on the tightrope with hell yawning below, is hardly the time to consider changing your shoelaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Loki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) PS it's French, so not very intuitive in its spelling: Coup d'état permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Right you are permalink fedilink source parent [–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago As soon as it's assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots. None of that will cause any structural change, which is why it is permitted How can we reshape the United States such that genocide is never permitted again? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krono@lemmy.today -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So just keep quiet for the next 6 months as Gaza starves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago That sounds bad. But you have to remember that they're brown and Muslim. Which means it's OK. Fish don't have any feelings, which makes it ok to eat them. Same logic applies here. Remember to vote blue no matter who. And always remember that the United States is a good country filled with moral people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Loki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) PS it's French, so not very intuitive in its spelling: Coup d'état permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Right you are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago As soon as it's assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots. None of that will cause any structural change, which is why it is permitted How can we reshape the United States such that genocide is never permitted again? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krono@lemmy.today -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So just keep quiet for the next 6 months as Gaza starves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago That sounds bad. But you have to remember that they're brown and Muslim. Which means it's OK. Fish don't have any feelings, which makes it ok to eat them. Same logic applies here. Remember to vote blue no matter who. And always remember that the United States is a good country filled with moral people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago That sounds bad. But you have to remember that they're brown and Muslim. Which means it's OK. Fish don't have any feelings, which makes it ok to eat them. Same logic applies here. Remember to vote blue no matter who. And always remember that the United States is a good country filled with moral people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago Letting the most immoral thing happen as you sit on your hands isn't a moral victory on your part. It's a moral failing. If you had the chance to save ten people but one of them had to die, and you choose to let all of them die, you didn't do something moral. You can pretend to yourself that your making a stand that matters, but any rational person see that you are choosing to let more harm be done because you can't stand to do something a little dirty but better. It's weak, not moral. We sometimes have to do the thing we wish we didn't in order to get the best outcome possible. You don't clean your toilet because you enjoy it. You clean it because it needs to be done, and sometimes getting a little dirty is better than letting things get worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I have kids, I genuinely hope they ask me that. I hope they get angry at me, because the concept of a tacit genocide supporter being the lesser evil is unthinkable. I want them to live in a world where there aren't moral conundrums like that, and the closest they come to them is in gritty video games and academic hypotheticals. I'm willing to support the lesser evil and have blood on my hands so they can live in a better world and condemn me for it. I will be thrilled if that comes to pass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent