▲ 538 ▼ The Billionaire-Fueled Lobbying Group Behind the State Bills to Ban Basic Income Experiments in the U.S. (www.scottsantens.com) submitted 2 years ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to c/workreform@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Come on. You realise things aren't all bad or all good right? Yes it's true that capitalism hasn't worked out, but it's not true that capitalism has no beneficial qualities whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really understand. Perhaps you're looking for a net benefit. As I said, things aren't all bad or all good. As you said yourself, Capitalism is very efficient. It's technological or administrative requirements are minimal. If you want to get from a pre-industrial feudal society to a sophisticated modern utopia, you can't go straight to socialism. We needed capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago What? Capitalism has no intentional benefits that aren't personal. Every single feature benefits specific people instead of... Everybody. Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Come on. You realise things aren't all bad or all good right? Yes it's true that capitalism hasn't worked out, but it's not true that capitalism has no beneficial qualities whatsoever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really understand. Perhaps you're looking for a net benefit. As I said, things aren't all bad or all good. As you said yourself, Capitalism is very efficient. It's technological or administrative requirements are minimal. If you want to get from a pre-industrial feudal society to a sophisticated modern utopia, you can't go straight to socialism. We needed capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago What? Capitalism has no intentional benefits that aren't personal. Every single feature benefits specific people instead of... Everybody. Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really understand. Perhaps you're looking for a net benefit. As I said, things aren't all bad or all good. As you said yourself, Capitalism is very efficient. It's technological or administrative requirements are minimal. If you want to get from a pre-industrial feudal society to a sophisticated modern utopia, you can't go straight to socialism. We needed capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really understand. Perhaps you're looking for a net benefit. As I said, things aren't all bad or all good. As you said yourself, Capitalism is very efficient. It's technological or administrative requirements are minimal. If you want to get from a pre-industrial feudal society to a sophisticated modern utopia, you can't go straight to socialism. We needed capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Like it or not, contemporary tech was created from those resources extracted from the environment and the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you’re cherry picking one paragraph Cherry Picking means selecting a single set of data that supports my argument while ignoring other data to the contrary. It does not mean selecting only a part of your argument to rebut. in hopes of creating a false dichotomy A false dichotomy means reducing a large set of choices to merely two. an assertion that technology is dependent on capitalism is not that. a strawman Pretty much any argument can be categorised as a strawman. Listing logical fallacies in order to make yourself appear more knowledgeable would work better if you could identify them correctly. Regardless, I'm not going to be able to reason with someone who makes ridiculous claims like "Capitalism is a disease on this planet" (which is an appeal to emotion by the way), so I'll leave you to congratulate yourself on winning this little tete-a-tete. I look forward to reading your parting witticism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago What? Capitalism has no intentional benefits that aren't personal. Every single feature benefits specific people instead of... Everybody. Are you high? permalink fedilink source parent