▲ 200 ▼ User got a $104K bill from hosting provider(Netlify): “I thought it was a joke” (cybernews.com) submitted 2 years ago by King@lemy.lol to c/technology@lemmy.world 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] scorpionix@feddit.de 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not use a hosting provider that charges by the amount of traffic? This appears to be an extreme edge case but overall there is nothing preventing you from waking up to such a huge bill if your site turns into the most popular page on the internet over night. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago* I didn't even think commercial host providers would do this. The only service I knew about that had limit to transferred amount of data was grex.org, a non-commercial public unix shell. It had limit of 10MB/day for your web page, but it also didn't allow stuff like images. However, that wasn't anything commercial. And I think before the shutdown it was just a single computer sitting in someone's basement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] King@lemy.lol [S] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) From their FAQ: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's insane that a bill like this cannot be prevented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Its not a bug, it's a feature. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mouse@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago Not that it helps but the CEO claims they forgive for this type of attack/event. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39521986 Netlify CEO here. Our support team has reached out to the user from the thread to let them know they're not getting charged for this. It's currently our policy to not shut down free sites during traffic spikes that doesn't match attack patterns, but instead forgiving any bills from legitimate mistakes after the fact. Apologies that this didn't come through in the initial support reply. And later they were asked if they would have responded if it didn't go viral. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39522029 Question: There are only two questions everyone have: Would Netlify forgive the bill if this didn't go viral? How do you plan to address this issue so that it never happens again? Everyone here knew someone from Netlify would come and say OP wouldn't have to pay. That was a given. Now we want to know the important answers. Answer by CEO: Yes. We've forgiven lots and lots of bills over the last 9 years and they haven't gone viral While I've always favored erring towards keeping people's sites up we are currently working on changing the default behavior to never let free sites incur overages permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can put the site behind cloudflare for DDOS protection. Unfortunately, it's not good for user privacy and it will make the site difficult to access over VPNs, proxies, and TOR. Netlifiy is very expensive for bandwidth and the free bandwidth can be exceeded very quickly. I would look for something with a hard bandwidth cap. Then your site will just go offline if the bandwidth is exceeded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Unfortunately, it’s not good for user privacy and it will make the site difficult to access over VPNs, proxies, and TOR. Difficult, but not impossible (unless the site owner also goes and futher implements additional measures like ASN blocking for known proxies/VPNs/etc), just solve a captcha and you should be on your way pretty much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] superterran@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago* You should take a look at GitHub Pages permalink fedilink source parent [–] King@lemy.lol [S] -1 points 2 years ago I recommend hosting your projects on Cloudflare Pages, as it is a free service provider to the best of my knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scorpionix@feddit.de 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not use a hosting provider that charges by the amount of traffic? This appears to be an extreme edge case but overall there is nothing preventing you from waking up to such a huge bill if your site turns into the most popular page on the internet over night. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago* I didn't even think commercial host providers would do this. The only service I knew about that had limit to transferred amount of data was grex.org, a non-commercial public unix shell. It had limit of 10MB/day for your web page, but it also didn't allow stuff like images. However, that wasn't anything commercial. And I think before the shutdown it was just a single computer sitting in someone's basement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago* I didn't even think commercial host providers would do this. The only service I knew about that had limit to transferred amount of data was grex.org, a non-commercial public unix shell. It had limit of 10MB/day for your web page, but it also didn't allow stuff like images. However, that wasn't anything commercial. And I think before the shutdown it was just a single computer sitting in someone's basement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] King@lemy.lol [S] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child) From their FAQ: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's insane that a bill like this cannot be prevented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Its not a bug, it's a feature. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's insane that a bill like this cannot be prevented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Its not a bug, it's a feature. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Its not a bug, it's a feature. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mouse@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago Not that it helps but the CEO claims they forgive for this type of attack/event. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39521986 Netlify CEO here. Our support team has reached out to the user from the thread to let them know they're not getting charged for this. It's currently our policy to not shut down free sites during traffic spikes that doesn't match attack patterns, but instead forgiving any bills from legitimate mistakes after the fact. Apologies that this didn't come through in the initial support reply. And later they were asked if they would have responded if it didn't go viral. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39522029 Question: There are only two questions everyone have: Would Netlify forgive the bill if this didn't go viral? How do you plan to address this issue so that it never happens again? Everyone here knew someone from Netlify would come and say OP wouldn't have to pay. That was a given. Now we want to know the important answers. Answer by CEO: Yes. We've forgiven lots and lots of bills over the last 9 years and they haven't gone viral While I've always favored erring towards keeping people's sites up we are currently working on changing the default behavior to never let free sites incur overages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can put the site behind cloudflare for DDOS protection. Unfortunately, it's not good for user privacy and it will make the site difficult to access over VPNs, proxies, and TOR. Netlifiy is very expensive for bandwidth and the free bandwidth can be exceeded very quickly. I would look for something with a hard bandwidth cap. Then your site will just go offline if the bandwidth is exceeded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Unfortunately, it’s not good for user privacy and it will make the site difficult to access over VPNs, proxies, and TOR. Difficult, but not impossible (unless the site owner also goes and futher implements additional measures like ASN blocking for known proxies/VPNs/etc), just solve a captcha and you should be on your way pretty much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Unfortunately, it’s not good for user privacy and it will make the site difficult to access over VPNs, proxies, and TOR. Difficult, but not impossible (unless the site owner also goes and futher implements additional measures like ASN blocking for known proxies/VPNs/etc), just solve a captcha and you should be on your way pretty much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] superterran@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago* You should take a look at GitHub Pages permalink fedilink source parent
[–] King@lemy.lol [S] -1 points 2 years ago I recommend hosting your projects on Cloudflare Pages, as it is a free service provider to the best of my knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent