▲ 514 ▼ 'Hell on wheels': Teen convicted of crashing car at 100 mph, killing boyfriend and friend (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments “This was not reckless driving. This was murder,” the judge said before she read out Mackenzie Shirilla's verdict Monday afternoon.
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Not a lawyer, but even if they consent isn't it murder? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) You can't consent to murder, the best you could do is indemnify someone/an organisation against accidental death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) You can't consent to murder Genuine question - why not? If someone wants to be murdered, for whatever reason, would that not be them consenting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago You could try to argue some suicide/euthanasia case, but "murder" by definition is intentional death without the consent of the victim. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stappern@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fuck_u_spez_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* There are cases of mutual murderer/suicide pacts where there's shared responsibility and actions taken by each party but that wouldn't have been possible when she was the only one in control of the car. Even if the boyfriend was suicidal, and there's no reason to think he was from this article, the other passenger clearly wasn't. IANAL either but I think that's what the above comment was trying to get at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) You can't consent to murder, the best you could do is indemnify someone/an organisation against accidental death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) You can't consent to murder Genuine question - why not? If someone wants to be murdered, for whatever reason, would that not be them consenting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago You could try to argue some suicide/euthanasia case, but "murder" by definition is intentional death without the consent of the victim. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stappern@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) You can't consent to murder Genuine question - why not? If someone wants to be murdered, for whatever reason, would that not be them consenting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago You could try to argue some suicide/euthanasia case, but "murder" by definition is intentional death without the consent of the victim. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stappern@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago You could try to argue some suicide/euthanasia case, but "murder" by definition is intentional death without the consent of the victim. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stappern@lemmy.one 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fuck_u_spez_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* There are cases of mutual murderer/suicide pacts where there's shared responsibility and actions taken by each party but that wouldn't have been possible when she was the only one in control of the car. Even if the boyfriend was suicidal, and there's no reason to think he was from this article, the other passenger clearly wasn't. IANAL either but I think that's what the above comment was trying to get at. permalink fedilink source parent