▲ 326 ▼ Wavering Black voters: Biden is flawed — and Trump is unacceptable (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 155 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Campaign for local progressives, build up your influence from the ground up. Right now, you are a fringe vote that the DNC does not take seriously because you don't have enough representatives to control more of the party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except polling data clearly shows that the progressive policies are massively popular with the American people, so to call progressives fringe is inaccurate. The issue at hand is not that progressives are a fringe group, it’s that progressive policies are considered a threat to the privileged owner class and so the left is demonized at every opportunity by the media outlets owned by those same elites. This isn’t to say your suggestions are wrong - I do what I can within the confines of the 2 party system. But my point is the system is broken. I’m more focused on getting money (legalized bribes) out of politics, and getting rid of First Past the Post in favor of ranked choice voting. Just these two things would massively change the American political landscape, and quality of representation, for the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yes, but the change Trump is offering is the next level of oppression. Desperate for water these people drink sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, agreed. Still, we will need to understand their motivations to lead them back to water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Their motivation is they are ready to drink Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan for trump. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) jill stein said the green party is on track to hit 5% in november. i might never vote for another democrat again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perennial also-ran Jill Stein? If she had a chance she would've had it a decade ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) and yet, it looks like i'm gonna be voting for her again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're free to cast your vote however you like. IMO Dr. Stein, while I might agree with a lot of policy choices, lacks the cunning necessary to operate on the global stage. She's the definition of the useful idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except polling data clearly shows that the progressive policies are massively popular with the American people, so to call progressives fringe is inaccurate. The issue at hand is not that progressives are a fringe group, it’s that progressive policies are considered a threat to the privileged owner class and so the left is demonized at every opportunity by the media outlets owned by those same elites. This isn’t to say your suggestions are wrong - I do what I can within the confines of the 2 party system. But my point is the system is broken. I’m more focused on getting money (legalized bribes) out of politics, and getting rid of First Past the Post in favor of ranked choice voting. Just these two things would massively change the American political landscape, and quality of representation, for the better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yes, but the change Trump is offering is the next level of oppression. Desperate for water these people drink sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, agreed. Still, we will need to understand their motivations to lead them back to water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Their motivation is they are ready to drink Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan for trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yes, but the change Trump is offering is the next level of oppression. Desperate for water these people drink sand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, agreed. Still, we will need to understand their motivations to lead them back to water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Their motivation is they are ready to drink Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan for trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, agreed. Still, we will need to understand their motivations to lead them back to water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Their motivation is they are ready to drink Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan for trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Their motivation is they are ready to drink Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan for trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) jill stein said the green party is on track to hit 5% in november. i might never vote for another democrat again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perennial also-ran Jill Stein? If she had a chance she would've had it a decade ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) and yet, it looks like i'm gonna be voting for her again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're free to cast your vote however you like. IMO Dr. Stein, while I might agree with a lot of policy choices, lacks the cunning necessary to operate on the global stage. She's the definition of the useful idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perennial also-ran Jill Stein? If she had a chance she would've had it a decade ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) and yet, it looks like i'm gonna be voting for her again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're free to cast your vote however you like. IMO Dr. Stein, while I might agree with a lot of policy choices, lacks the cunning necessary to operate on the global stage. She's the definition of the useful idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) and yet, it looks like i'm gonna be voting for her again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're free to cast your vote however you like. IMO Dr. Stein, while I might agree with a lot of policy choices, lacks the cunning necessary to operate on the global stage. She's the definition of the useful idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're free to cast your vote however you like. IMO Dr. Stein, while I might agree with a lot of policy choices, lacks the cunning necessary to operate on the global stage. She's the definition of the useful idiot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 2 years ago that picture has been misrepresented for almost a decade. permalink fedilink source parent