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[–] Hardeehar@lemm.ee 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm okay with skeptical and verifying but he doesn't challenge all his guests equally. I'm not saying he should be perfect, but there are some really far out ideas that need more questioning before I'm personally satisfied.

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https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

he is a cunt, literally lied about how he heard they are putting cat litter into classes so that kids eho identify as cats have somewhere to go, then when called out on it that it's bullshit he just said it's a joke or something.

the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere

it's covered in Some more News' Moral panic video

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[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 child)

the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere

Do Americans not realize how fucked up their country sounds to the rest of us when they do this kind of shit instead of controlling you-know-what?

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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

We absolutely do. Our country has been captured and held hostage by a small minority of selfish morons.

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[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gun control is tricky; studies that I've seen show that a large majority want "dune kind of gun control" but any discussion of what that entails starts to get less popular in a hurry.

I've found that many otherwise reasonable people get upset really quickly when the subject even gets brought up.

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[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what is dune gun control

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

Holtzman shields. They only allow matter to pass when that matter is going slowly enough, making guns useless.

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[–] CrabLord@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Dune gun control must be Leto's peace!

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[–] PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Something something and then someone says, hwiiiiiiiiii!

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They probably meant "some".

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[+] Waldemar_Firehammer@sh.itjust.works -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gun control is ineffective. The real issue plaguing the US is poverty and mental health. Just look to some of the areas with the most strict gun control laws, they're also the areas with the highest gun violence statistics in the country. Chicago, New York, LA to name a few.

One of the reasons places like schools are targeted so often is because it's a known soft target. Gun free zones are known to have less resistance to the scumbags and cowards that are doing these heinous acts. If they knew that every adult could potentially fight back and give as good as they get, I would expect there would be far fewer mass shootings. These people are cowards praying upon those who cannot resist, and even the threat of potential return fire is enough to deter most.

I'm not saying that we should force every teacher to become certified and carry, but it should be up to them whether they choose to fight for their students, and if they do they should have the same or better tools than the bad guys.

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[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

This. This is exactly what OP was talking about when they said we look crazy to the rest of the world.

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[–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

LA probably has more laws about fishing from piers than Phoenix does too. Places with higher gun crime rates combat that with gun laws.

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[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

With his alt-right views, Joe Rogan has essentially become Rush Limbaugh with a traumatic brain injury.

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[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

I think you're giving Limbaugh more credit than he deserves.

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[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere

I believe that as much as the original claim.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax?wprov=sfla1

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago*

The only known official instance of cat litter being placed in school classrooms for potential use by students was in the late 2010s by the Jefferson County Public School District in Colorado, where the 1999 Columbine High School massacre took place. Some teachers were given "go buckets" that contained cat litter to be used as a toilet in an emergency lockdown situation, such as during a school shooting.

moral panics always have a core of truth in them maybe watch the video it's really good, adresses the satanist panic etc.

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[–] KeenSnappersDontCome@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Here is a video that went viral of a teacher explaianing the "bathroom bucket" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEEP2PfxYSQ If you search for a "Classroom Lockdown Bucket" you will get numerous results of websites selling a bucket filled with emergency supplies that can also be used as a toilet.

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[–] S_204@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Only in America does a bucket need to be marketed as a place to take a shit when toilets aren't available.

The stupidity of Americans is comical. Yet there's pride in the ignorance. Astonishing.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

I will also say it's 2023, some things are past even being sceptical about.

If you bring on a flatearther you aren't being sceptical, you're a moron.

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[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

His show is entertainment first and foremost. That means glorifying stupid bullshit for the entertainment value of it.

Most hard science is boring. Most fringe theory thinking is dramatic and thrilling.

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

He has some alt-right ideas and opinions too, he just hides it well. I've seen the mask slip.

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Hard science can be the most wonderful things you ever heard about. You merely need someone to explains it right.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Optimizing for truth sometimes creates something entertaining, but only by coincidence. I suppose you can say that the truth is entertaining specifically because it is the truth, but crazy stuff claims to be the truth too. Only someone who already knows the difference is going to appreciate the former more than the latter.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I would rather someone excitedly tell me about how gravitational lensing is usedto view a black hole over listening to some fuckwit go on about how there is an Ice wall around the flat earth patrolled by Navies to prevent the truth that Nasa faked Australia coming out.

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[–] Mountaineer@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago*

Nasa faked Australia

As an Australian, this is wild and I want to know more.

Edit: Woah. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/australia-doesnt-exit-people-who-live-actors-paid-nasa-kurt-nielsen

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[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Speak for yourself. Hard science isn't boring to me.

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[–] anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago

I guess this is why he is successful. Entertaining.

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[–] Hardeehar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

Spot on

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 75 points 2 years ago (1 child)

His mind's so open his brain fell out

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[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago

But it was so small nobody could find it

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Nice diction.

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[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Nice diction bro

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[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love that though. I want to hear these wack jobs talk. I don’t listen to get smarter, just like I don’t go to McDonalds for a fine cooked meal.

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[–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

And that's fine, if you understand that these are wack jobs who shouldn't be taken seriously. Most of Rogan's listeners definitely don't

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[+] ThrowThrowThrewaway7@lemm.ee -24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Well, that's just bullshit.

We've been seeing the destructive power of the media legitimizing unsupported ideas. Fox News, Info Wars, and other outlets are what led to things like January 6th. So seeing someone like Rogan, who has a giant fan base and a popular show that gives credence to wildly inaccurate information pisses off a lot of us. I complain about it because it makes me angry, not because doing so makes me feel superior.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Don't listen to Joe Rogan because he platforms morons and so forth

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[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah if people go to a game show host/sports commentator for their political or scientific worldview that isn’t my problem.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

It is your problem when they start using the views these dumbass hosts are spewing to elect fuckwits.

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[–] Lurk99777@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It is a problem for most of us who live in the US because those are the type of people who are now getting elected and bringing the country backwards.