▲ 514 ▼ 'Hell on wheels': Teen convicted of crashing car at 100 mph, killing boyfriend and friend (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments “This was not reckless driving. This was murder,” the judge said before she read out Mackenzie Shirilla's verdict Monday afternoon.
[–] Angry_Zombie@lemmy.world 42 points 3 years ago (3 children) Murder is a felony, so I believe you have to serve 80% of a sentence before being able to be eligible for parole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snorkbubs@fedia.io 41 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The bullshit sentences are the ones we mainly hear about, and many people have a bit of a confirmation bias because of it. But, you don't have to look further than your own community to see that slaps on the wrist are not typical. US citizens are the most incarcerated people on Earth, buy an uncomfortable margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago I can't hear you over the sound of the affluenza defense being used. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You forgot the white woman modifier, you take a man's sentence and divide by 4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago It'd likely the families of those she killed will be at every single parole hearing kicking up a fuss. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alienanimals@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Murder with a car is often toned down to, "vehicular manslaughter". It's often times charged as a misdemeanor. I agree with you that it should always be a felony because it's murder, but that's not how the courts treat it. Here's an example of a New Jersey man who murdered someone with their car and did not face any jail time at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Manslaughter, by definition, is not murder. It's unintentionally causing the death of someone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* It’s possible that this wasn’t intentional if her intention was to put her bf in the hospital, not literally kill him. But at 100 mph I doubt it. Though I could see a psychotic 17 year old not thinking it through and assuming the boyfriend would survive, albeit crippled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snorkbubs@fedia.io 41 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The bullshit sentences are the ones we mainly hear about, and many people have a bit of a confirmation bias because of it. But, you don't have to look further than your own community to see that slaps on the wrist are not typical. US citizens are the most incarcerated people on Earth, buy an uncomfortable margin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago I can't hear you over the sound of the affluenza defense being used. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago I can't hear you over the sound of the affluenza defense being used. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 years ago (1 child) You forgot the white woman modifier, you take a man's sentence and divide by 4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago It'd likely the families of those she killed will be at every single parole hearing kicking up a fuss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago It'd likely the families of those she killed will be at every single parole hearing kicking up a fuss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Murder with a car is often toned down to, "vehicular manslaughter". It's often times charged as a misdemeanor. I agree with you that it should always be a felony because it's murder, but that's not how the courts treat it. Here's an example of a New Jersey man who murdered someone with their car and did not face any jail time at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Manslaughter, by definition, is not murder. It's unintentionally causing the death of someone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* It’s possible that this wasn’t intentional if her intention was to put her bf in the hospital, not literally kill him. But at 100 mph I doubt it. Though I could see a psychotic 17 year old not thinking it through and assuming the boyfriend would survive, albeit crippled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Manslaughter, by definition, is not murder. It's unintentionally causing the death of someone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* It’s possible that this wasn’t intentional if her intention was to put her bf in the hospital, not literally kill him. But at 100 mph I doubt it. Though I could see a psychotic 17 year old not thinking it through and assuming the boyfriend would survive, albeit crippled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* It’s possible that this wasn’t intentional if her intention was to put her bf in the hospital, not literally kill him. But at 100 mph I doubt it. Though I could see a psychotic 17 year old not thinking it through and assuming the boyfriend would survive, albeit crippled. permalink fedilink source parent